CMV: "we cant have infinite growth in a finite world" is a dumb harmful idea
Why its dumb:
That is the whole point of technology! If resources are limited we find better ways to do valuable things with the existing ones. We have been doing this for centuries (or, arguably, since before we became homo sapiens sapiens)
There might be a limit to that, a point in which our technology is so great no significant improvement is possible (or at least not practical). But we are nowhere close to that. And any limits we might theorize today are based on our current understanding of physics, which is likely to change in the long timeframe it would take for us to reach the limit
And we have no reason to restrict ourselves to the resources of earth. We can - and should - colonize space. The moon. The planets, the asteroids and then the stars. And while we are at it we should do a dyson swarm of space stations around the sun. With multiple copies of earth biome if we want
Why its harmful:
It implies growth is bad. It isnt. Growth is what allows us to improve peoples lives. It means more food for the hungry, more medicine for the sick, more air conditioning between the tropics, more yatchs to the rich. If we want those that live in this planet to thrive we need to find way
Stepping back, this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That’s what changes the context.
Reaction: Please do not the gun!
To be fair, the follow-through is what will decide this and that’s what people are responding to Feels like an opening move, not an ending. That’s just my read on it.
If we’re being honest, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that’s where it gets complicated That’s just how it reads to me. That’s just my read on it.
To be fair, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that’s what people are responding to We’ll see how people react over time. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Reaction: me_irl
the way this is presented changes how it lands
Looking at this, this comes across more reactive than planned
Stepping back, the main issue seems to be how this is handled That’s the key detail here. Curious how this plays out.
this feels rushed rather than thought through and that’s where people will push back This could age very differently in a week.
If we’re being honest, this depends heavily on what happens next That’s what changes the context. We’ll see how people react over time.
At first glance, this comes across more reactive than planned which explains why reactions are split
there’s a lot said here but not much clarified Hard to say where this lands long term. At least from my perspective.
That's not necessarily an "idea"; it's a stark fact. We won't be able to grow forever because of our finite resources and environment. This isn't dumb or harmful—it's real and needs addressing for our survival.
this depends heavily on what happens next and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That’s what changes the context.
Reaction: me_irl
I get the idea, the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s what people are responding to Time will tell. That’s the impression it gives me.
Stepping back, the way this is presented changes how it lands and that’s where it gets complicated That’s what makes this interesting. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Reaction: me_irl
Reaction: I cannot elaborate on this meme
At this point, the way this is presented changes how it lands Curious how this plays out.
From my side, the main issue seems to be how this is handled which explains why reactions are split That’s the key detail here. That’s just my read on it.
From where I sit, this feels rushed rather than thought through which explains why reactions are split That’s the key detail here. Feels like there’s more coming here.
If you zoom out, this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that’s where it gets complicated This could age very differently in a week. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Bluntly speaking, the follow-through is what will decide this which is why the comments look the way they do That’s what changes the context. Feels like there’s more coming here. That’s just my read on it.