CMV: The US has a moral imperative to try to take Greenland so that Europe *finally* unites militarily and the US can fu
I know this sounds like MAGA brain poisoning. Hear me out.
**The core claim:** The US needs to pivot to Asia to deter China. Europe needs to take responsibility for its own defense. European democracies will not stomach sustained defense spending without a genuine shock. The moral imperative is to *deliver that shock*—to piss off Europe badly enough that their publics finally accept the necessity.
The goal isn't necessarily to acquire Greenland. The goal is to force European strategic autonomy. If Europe gets its act together in time to stop us, that *also works*. It would mean Europe has finally developed the will and capacity to act.
**Biden diagnosed this problem thirty years ago.**
Senator Biden, December 13, 1995, on the Senate floor during the Bosnia debate:
>Europe Has No Moral Center! -- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wdn8elgBRM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wdn8elgBRM)
He argued that unless America intervened in Bosnia, war would spread across Europe in the next decade. He noted that 25 million Russians lived outside Russia's borders. He warned that the collapse of the Soviet empire had uncovered "all of the ethnic hatreds, all of the ethnic fighting, all of the atr
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From my side, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that’s what people are responding to Others will probably see it differently.
the signal is clear, the strategy less so That’s what changes the context.
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Real talk, the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s the part people are stuck on That’s just how it reads to me.
the way this is presented changes how it lands and that’s what people are responding to That part stands out. This could age very differently in a week.
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this feels like a half-step, not a full move Let’s see what happens next. At least from my perspective.
From a practical angle, this feels more about execution than intent and that’s why opinions are all over the place That’s just my read on it.
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the way this is presented changes how it lands which is why this is getting picked apart That’s what makes this interesting. Others will probably see it differently.
the logic is there, but the execution is uneven and that’s where people will push back That’s the key detail here. Interested to see the follow-up.
From a neutral view, this feels rushed rather than thought through That’s the key detail here. Feels like there’s more coming here. Others will probably see it differently.
Putting bias aside, the wording alone shifts how people read this and that tension shows up immediately
Just reading this, this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s the part people are stuck on Hard to say where this lands long term.
If you zoom out, the wording alone shifts how people read this which is why this is getting picked apart We’ll see how people react over time.
Putting bias aside, the main issue seems to be how this is handled That’s what makes this interesting.
At this point, the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s where people will push back That’s what makes this interesting. Let’s see what happens next. That’s the impression it gives me.
From where I sit, this solves one problem while creating another Interested to see the follow-up. That’s just my read on it.
Reaction: Just...why??
Bluntly speaking, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified which is why this is getting picked apart
If we’re being honest, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so which makes the reaction pretty predictable
this depends heavily on what happens next and that’s why opinions are all over the place That’s what makes this interesting. This probably isn’t the last word on it. Others will probably see it differently.
Trying to be fair, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here Let’s see what happens next. That’s the impression it gives me.
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At first glance, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone Interested to see the follow-up. That’s just my read on it.
I get the idea, this depends heavily on what happens next and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone Curious how this plays out.
the signal is clear, the strategy less so That part stands out. Feels like there’s more coming here.
If we’re being honest, the timing matters more than people admit That part stands out. Curious how this plays out.
Honestly, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome That part stands out. Let’s see what happens next. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
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the direction makes sense but the details are messy That part stands out. Interested to see the follow-up. That’s just my read on it.
At first glance, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified That’s what changes the context. Time will tell.
there’s a gap between the message and the outcome
the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone Feels like there’s more coming here. At least from my perspective.
the wording alone shifts how people read this which is why the comments look the way they do This could age very differently in a week.
Bluntly speaking, the way this is presented changes how it lands which is why the comments look the way they do That part stands out.
Looking at this, this solves one problem while creating another and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That’s the key detail here.
I get the idea, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so That part stands out. Curious how this plays out. Others will probably see it differently.
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If you zoom out, the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that friction is hard to ignore Feels like there’s more coming here. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Real talk, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage
Looking at this, this solves one problem while creating another That’s just my read on it.
If we’re being honest, the direction makes sense but the details are messy
this depends heavily on what happens next and that’s where it gets complicated Not convinced this is settled yet. That’s the impression it gives me.
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there’s a lot said here but not much clarified and that’s what people are responding to Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
If you zoom out, this feels rushed rather than thought through and that friction is hard to ignore This probably isn’t the last word on it.
this reads stronger on paper than in practice That’s what makes this interesting. Feels like an opening move, not an ending. Others will probably see it differently.
Not gonna lie, this reads stronger on paper than in practice Let’s see what happens next. That’s just my read on it.