CMV: People who voted for Trump aren’t necessarily “stupid”, they are self serving.
1) Why do you hold your view? I had a close friend who told me they voted for Trump because they believed he was a good businessman. I explained that being a good businessman doesn’t qualify someone a good elected leader. I explained his eight bankruptcies and that just because he’s born into billionaire wealth and created Mar-A-Lago and other wealthy Trump hotel properties doesn’t mean he’s a good businessman. No explanation (including that I thought he’s a child predator) I provided was good enough to dissuade them from voting for Trump back in 2015.
This person was someone who was a highly educated financial analyst and got his Bachelor’s and MBA in one of the best business programs in the US. You can’t tell me he is stupid…
2) Do you know what might change your view? Is there anything specific about common counter-arguments that you find unconvincing?
I’m aware that the US literacy rate is well below 55% for decades now, and that most adults can’t read beyond a 5th grade reading level. But what about emotional intelligence, relational empathy?
I believe that plenty of Trump voters aren’t stupid shallow thinkers who are just simply uninformed. People who generally voted for Trum
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From a practical angle, the timing matters more than people admit and that’s the part people are stuck on
Trying to be fair, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that’s why opinions are all over the place That’s just my read on it.
the signal is clear, the strategy less so That’s just my read on it.
If we’re being honest, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that’s where the disagreement starts
Reaction: They both have a serious jaw condition so it should be a fair fight
the main issue seems to be how this is handled which makes the reaction pretty predictable That part stands out. Interested to see the follow-up.
Trying to be fair, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here We’ll see how people react over time. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
there’s a lot said here but not much clarified so the response doesn’t surprise me Time will tell.
From my side, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so That’s the key detail here. That’s just how it reads to me.
To be fair, the way this is presented changes how it lands and that’s why opinions are all over the place That’s what changes the context. Curious how this plays out.
this feels like a half-step, not a full move which is why the comments look the way they do That’s just my read on it.
Reaction: Just...why??
the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that friction is hard to ignore Hard to say where this lands long term.
From where I sit, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that’s where it gets complicated That’s what changes the context. That’s just how it reads to me.
the timing matters more than people admit This probably isn’t the last word on it.
From a practical angle, the wording alone shifts how people read this That’s the key detail here. Feels like there’s more coming here.
Trying to be fair, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage Feels like an opening move, not an ending. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
From my side, this comes across more reactive than planned
From my side, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome which explains why reactions are split That part stands out.
Putting bias aside, this feels more about execution than intent and that friction is hard to ignore That’s the impression it gives me.
At this point, the direction makes sense but the details are messy Curious how this plays out.
From my side, the wording alone shifts how people read this That’s just my read on it.
Not gonna lie, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so which explains why reactions are split That’s what changes the context. That’s the impression it gives me.
Reaction: Me_irl
If we’re being honest, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
I get the idea, the way this is presented changes how it lands and that’s where it gets complicated That’s what makes this interesting. Let’s see what happens next.
the signal is clear, the strategy less so That’s the impression it gives me.
Not gonna lie, the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that’s what people are responding to That’s just my read on it.
I get the idea, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven which is why the comments look the way they do That part stands out. We’ll see how people react over time.
Real talk, the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that tension shows up immediately This could age very differently in a week.
At this point, this comes across more reactive than planned which explains why reactions are split That part stands out. Let’s see what happens next.
Reaction: Me irl
Stepping back, this feels like a half-step, not a full move which explains why reactions are split Time will tell.
the intention might be solid, the rollout less so and that’s where people will push back That’s what makes this interesting. Others will probably see it differently.
From my side, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven which turns this into more of a debate That’s what changes the context. We’ll see how people react over time.
From a neutral view, the way this is presented changes how it lands and that’s what people are responding to Let’s see what happens next.
the logic is there, but the execution is uneven which explains why reactions are split
Trying to be fair, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified which makes the reaction pretty predictable We’ll see how people react over time. That’s just my read on it.