CMV: People should stop using the argument that Native Americans should be referred to as members of their tribe instead
A lot of the time, when the argument comes up over what to call people who are descendants of the people who lived in the Americas (and generally who were in the US) before Columbus arrived (I will be referring to these people as Native Americans for simplicity), some people will say that those people should be and prefer to be referred to as members of their tribe. You shouldn't call them Native Americans, or Indigenous Americans, or anything else; you should call them the Navajo people or the Choctaw people.
But I feel this argument is senseless. Native Americans are each part of their own tribal nation, yes. But that doesn't mean using a word to collectively refer to them isn't useful, and that's why people are asking/debating over a term in the first place. Even if a term that fit that criteria would be referring to a highly diverse group of people, we already have and use terms like that for other groups of people. For example, people often use the words "European" and "Asian", even though, like "Native American" and other terms for those people, those words refer to people from many different nations and many different cultures, religions, languages, and ethnicities. Having a
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Trying to be fair, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here That part stands out. Feels like there’s more coming here.
At first glance, the signal is clear, the strategy less so which is why the comments look the way they do
If we’re being honest, the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s what people are responding to Curious how this plays out.
From my side, this comes across more reactive than planned
To be fair, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven Feels like there’s more coming here.
Reaction: the collection of colorful pens
the logic is there, but the execution is uneven and that friction is hard to ignore Not convinced this is settled yet.
this feels more about execution than intent That’s just how it reads to me. That’s just my read on it.
Reaction: This meme is brought to you by a lack of sleep
On the surface, this feels rushed rather than thought through That’s what changes the context. That’s the impression it gives me.
there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that’s where it gets complicated Hard to say where this lands long term. That’s just my read on it.
the timing matters more than people admit and that’s where it gets complicated That’s what makes this interesting. Feels like there’s more coming here.
Without overthinking it, this depends heavily on what happens next and that’s where people will push back We’ll see how people react over time.
Reaction: Me_irl
Reaction: Me_irl
the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that’s the part people are stuck on Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
From a practical angle, this comes across more reactive than planned
On the surface, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome so the response doesn’t surprise me Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
this feels rushed rather than thought through and that’s the part people are stuck on That’s what makes this interesting. Not convinced this is settled yet. Others will probably see it differently.
Reaction: Why am I scared? Probably because one time my grandma got pulled over when I was a kid and she told the cop that her bad driving was because of me and he came to my window. I didnt do anythi
the follow-through is what will decide this so the response doesn’t surprise me Curious how this plays out.
At this point, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that’s the part people are stuck on That part stands out.
At this point, the timing matters more than people admit so the response doesn’t surprise me This could age very differently in a week.
Putting bias aside, the follow-through is what will decide this which explains why reactions are split At least from my perspective.
Reaction: Why am I scared? Probably because one time my grandma got pulled over when I was a kid and she told the cop that her bad driving was because of me and he came to my window. I didnt do anythi
Reaction: the collection of colorful pens
Bluntly speaking, the signal is clear, the strategy less so which makes the reaction pretty predictable That part stands out. This could age very differently in a week. That’s just my read on it.
this feels like a half-step, not a full move so the response doesn’t surprise me That’s what changes the context. That’s the impression it gives me.
the logic is there, but the execution is uneven which explains why reactions are split At least from my perspective.
At this point, this feels more about execution than intent and that’s where the disagreement starts Not convinced this is settled yet. That’s just my read on it.
Just reading this, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified and that’s where the disagreement starts That’s what makes this interesting. Not convinced this is settled yet.
From where I sit, this feels more about execution than intent
At this point, this feels rushed rather than thought through which makes the reaction pretty predictable
From where I sit, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome Not convinced this is settled yet.
Reaction: me_irl
Just reading this, the way this is presented changes how it lands That’s what changes the context. That’s just my read on it.
From a neutral view, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that friction is hard to ignore That’s what makes this interesting. We’ll see how people react over time.
At first glance, this feels like a half-step, not a full move This probably isn’t the last word on it. At least from my perspective.
Stepping back, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven Curious how this plays out. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
the timing matters more than people admit which turns this into more of a debate That part stands out. Feels like an opening move, not an ending.
Real talk, this solves one problem while creating another and that’s where the disagreement starts That’s the key detail here. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Honestly, this comes across more reactive than planned Let’s see what happens next. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
If you zoom out, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven At least from my perspective.
To be fair, the follow-through is what will decide this and that’s why opinions are all over the place Feels like there’s more coming here. That’s just my read on it.
I get the idea, this reads stronger on paper than in practice We’ll see how people react over time. Others will probably see it differently.
To be fair, the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s where it gets complicated This could age very differently in a week. That’s just my read on it.
this reads stronger on paper than in practice Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Trying to be fair, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome which makes the reaction pretty predictable Curious how this plays out. That’s the impression it gives me.