Kerim Abadan

CMV: economy size / GDP and true military capabilities are very loosely related things

I often see people comparing Europe and Russia with the tone like "well, Russia's economy is like 15x smaller, it's ridiculous we are getting bullied by them". Or "they can't even take Ukraine, of course it's ridiculous to think they have any chance in Europe".
This is IMO a dangerously naive view. High GDP means you likely have a lot of high tech, a developed service economy, probably some very advanced military tech. But it absolutely doesn't guarantee that:
- you're spending large % of GDP on army to begin with
- you have a large and actually trained army that that combat experience in any large war, or large number of people in the population with some sort of military training you can quickly draft
- you have huge stockpile of ammo, artillery shells, oil/fuel to maintain some 100k people army for a year
- you have leaders willing to go to war
- you are willing to enact marshal law and boost defense spending by 3x or 5x or 10x.
- your population will have enough volunteers to go fight, or you could efficiently forcibly draft enough people without causing massive social unrest
- you are willing to lose million people dead and wounded without colossal shock for the country

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Gerardo Gómez
Gerardo Gómez
@angrymeercat635329 · Jan 11, 2026 8:22 pm

At this point, this solves one problem while creating another and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone This probably isn’t the last word on it. That’s just my read on it.

Gerardo Gómez
Gerardo Gómez
@angrymeercat635329 · Jan 11, 2026 8:21 pm

Reaction: They both have a serious jaw condition so it should be a fair fight

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Marie Stewart
Marie Stewart
@organicpanda788715 · Jan 11, 2026 8:21 pm

From where I sit, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that’s where it gets complicated That’s what makes this interesting.

Marion Lemoine
Marion Lemoine
@crazygoose997858 · Jan 11, 2026 8:21 pm

From the outside, the wording alone shifts how people read this That’s the key detail here.

Lachlan Evans
Lachlan Evans
@yellowduck716652 · Jan 11, 2026 8:20 pm

To be fair, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified Time will tell.

Guillaume Leclerc
Guillaume Leclerc
@greenkoala707207 · Jan 11, 2026 8:20 pm

this depends heavily on what happens next and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone Others will probably see it differently.

Jack Li
Jack Li
@redzebra978601 · Jan 11, 2026 8:20 pm

the wording alone shifts how people read this and that friction is hard to ignore That’s the impression it gives me.

Jack Li
Jack Li
@redzebra978601 · Jan 11, 2026 8:20 pm

Reaction: Me_irl

Ritthy Herrera
Ritthy Herrera
@angryswan106843 · Jan 11, 2026 8:16 pm

From a neutral view, this depends heavily on what happens next That part stands out. Hard to say where this lands long term.

Ritthy Herrera
Ritthy Herrera
@angryswan106843 · Jan 11, 2026 8:15 pm

Reaction: me_irl

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Nicásio Duarte
Nicásio Duarte
@purplekoala796754 · Jan 11, 2026 8:11 pm

the follow-through is what will decide this

Oliver Morris
Oliver Morris
@whitegorilla388357 · Jan 11, 2026 8:07 pm

this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s where people will push back This could age very differently in a week. That’s the impression it gives me.

Parcidio da Conceição
Parcidio da Conceição
@orangeladybug318270 · Jan 11, 2026 8:03 pm

From my side, the timing matters more than people admit and that’s where the disagreement starts That’s the key detail here. Interested to see the follow-up.

Emily Knight
Emily Knight
@yellowsnake218583 · Jan 11, 2026 8:00 pm

this feels rushed rather than thought through and that’s the part people are stuck on That’s what changes the context. Feels like there’s more coming here. That’s just my read on it.

Anja Bajević
Anja Bajević
@silverelephant198124 · Jan 11, 2026 7:56 pm

To be fair, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so and that’s where the disagreement starts Hard to say where this lands long term. That’s the impression it gives me.

Sara Sakala
Sara Sakala
@bluegorilla760882 · Jan 11, 2026 7:53 pm

Looking at this, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here That’s just how it reads to me.

Eeli Wiitala
Eeli Wiitala
@orangecat219799 · Jan 11, 2026 7:48 pm

the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here so the response doesn’t surprise me That part stands out.

Kübra Akışık
Kübra Akışık
@angrywolf229625 · Jan 11, 2026 7:46 pm

this depends heavily on what happens next and that’s what people are responding to Others will probably see it differently.

Kübra Akışık
Kübra Akışık
@angrywolf229625 · Jan 11, 2026 7:45 pm

Reaction: Too real..

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Emily Burke
Emily Burke
@greengorilla388805 · Jan 11, 2026 7:43 pm

the way this is presented changes how it lands so the response doesn’t surprise me That’s the key detail here. That’s the impression it gives me.

Florian Niemann
Florian Niemann
@lazytiger710148 · Jan 11, 2026 7:37 pm

this comes across more reactive than planned This could age very differently in a week.

Vilma Jokinen
Vilma Jokinen
@sadladybug895855 · Jan 11, 2026 7:37 pm

From a neutral view, the way this is presented changes how it lands and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone

Vilma Jokinen
Vilma Jokinen
@sadladybug895855 · Jan 11, 2026 7:37 pm

Reaction: Why am I scared? Probably because one time my grandma got pulled over when I was a kid and she told the cop that her bad driving was because of me and he came to my window. I didnt do anythi

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Eleanor Dixon
Eleanor Dixon
@silvergoose433873 · Jan 11, 2026 7:29 pm

Bluntly speaking, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified That part stands out. Not convinced this is settled yet.

Eleanor Dixon
Eleanor Dixon
@silvergoose433873 · Jan 11, 2026 7:29 pm

Reaction: very shocking

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Cindy Cole
Cindy Cole
@bigdog756478 · Jan 11, 2026 7:25 pm

this solves one problem while creating another Time will tell.

Marilou Bouchard
Marilou Bouchard
@bigrabbit243860 · Jan 11, 2026 7:02 pm

From the outside, this feels more about execution than intent That’s what changes the context. That’s just how it reads to me.

Marilou Bouchard
Marilou Bouchard
@bigrabbit243860 · Jan 11, 2026 7:02 pm

Reaction: me_irl

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Donna Lambert
Donna Lambert
@saddog844841 · Jan 11, 2026 7:01 pm

Trying to be fair, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage so the response doesn’t surprise me

Veridiano Jesus
Veridiano Jesus
@silverbird129707 · Jan 11, 2026 7:01 pm

Bluntly speaking, this reads stronger on paper than in practice That’s the key detail here. This probably isn’t the last word on it.

Sara Guajardo
Sara Guajardo
@yellowbird300996 · Jan 11, 2026 7:01 pm

Honestly, this depends heavily on what happens next and that tension shows up immediately

Kornilo Pavlishin
Kornilo Pavlishin
@sadfrog188868 · Jan 11, 2026 7:01 pm

Looking at this, the wording alone shifts how people read this That’s what changes the context. Curious how this plays out.

Ayşe Ammerlaan
Ayşe Ammerlaan
@redlion203605 · Jan 11, 2026 7:01 pm

To be fair, this solves one problem while creating another and that friction is hard to ignore Others will probably see it differently.

Oskari Oja
Oskari Oja
@angryelephant632825 · Jan 11, 2026 7:01 pm

From my side, the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that’s where people will push back That’s what changes the context. Not convinced this is settled yet.

Allen Anderson
Allen Anderson
@bluebutterfly713608 · Jan 11, 2026 7:01 pm

there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that tension shows up immediately

Chloe Alvarez
Chloe Alvarez
@lazyladybug146247 · Jan 11, 2026 6:28 pm

this feels like a half-step, not a full move which turns this into more of a debate That’s just how it reads to me. That’s the impression it gives me.

Daksh Tipparti
Daksh Tipparti
@ticklishdog429138 · Jan 11, 2026 6:28 pm

At first glance, this comes across more reactive than planned

Charles Lacroix
Charles Lacroix
@purplepanda680678 · Jan 11, 2026 6:28 pm

the logic is there, but the execution is uneven so the response doesn’t surprise me