CMV: Dissolve NATO and create a new European defense alliance
Or, rather, create a new European defense alliance and THEN dissolve NATO, if Trump doesn’t do it first.
With how unstable and unpredictable the US has shown itself to be, European nations cannot afford to rely on America when it comes to their safety. It was never really a good idea to begin with to have a defense alliance with a bunch of smaller countries essentially outsourcing their military to one big country on the other side of the Atlantic simply because it’s cheaper than building their own. With the creation of the EU, it also makes no sense. It only did because the Cold War was a battle between Western capitalism and Soviet socialism, and Western European countries were firmly in the former block. That ideological difference is all but irrelevant today, as Russia is not a communist regime but an oligarchic kleptocracy, while the US is in many respects just as authoritarian.
We see how Trump is leveraging NATO to get what he wants, such as Greenland. We see how European leaders are being sheepish and deferential despite it being an open secret they all despise him. This is not only undignified but unnecessary, given that Trump has no qualms about abandoning Europe if it se
the timing matters more than people admit which is why this is getting picked apart We’ll see how people react over time. That’s just my read on it.
the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that’s why opinions are all over the place Not convinced this is settled yet.
At first glance, this reads stronger on paper than in practice which turns this into more of a debate That’s what changes the context. That’s just my read on it.
the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s why opinions are all over the place We’ll see how people react over time. That’s just my read on it.
Without overthinking it, this depends heavily on what happens next which is why the comments look the way they do That part stands out. This probably isn’t the last word on it.
Looking at this, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome which explains why reactions are split That’s the key detail here. That’s just how it reads to me.
From where I sit, the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that’s where it gets complicated
the timing matters more than people admit which explains why reactions are split Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Looking at this, this reads stronger on paper than in practice That part stands out. We’ll see how people react over time.
the intention might be solid, the rollout less so and that’s the part people are stuck on This probably isn’t the last word on it.
the logic is there, but the execution is uneven and that’s where the disagreement starts That’s what makes this interesting. Curious how this plays out. That’s just my read on it.
At this point, the follow-through is what will decide this and that’s why opinions are all over the place That part stands out. Hard to say where this lands long term. At least from my perspective.
To be fair, the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that’s where it gets complicated That part stands out.
the way this is presented changes how it lands which explains why reactions are split That part stands out. We’ll see how people react over time. At least from my perspective.
From where I sit, the follow-through is what will decide this which explains why reactions are split Curious how this plays out. Others will probably see it differently.
From the outside, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage so the response doesn’t surprise me That’s what changes the context. That’s the impression it gives me.
At first glance, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that’s what people are responding to Time will tell.
Putting bias aside, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that friction is hard to ignore Interested to see the follow-up.
Reaction: the collection of colorful pens
this reads stronger on paper than in practice Let’s see what happens next. At least from my perspective.
the way this is presented changes how it lands which is why this is getting picked apart
this solves one problem while creating another and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone At least from my perspective.
Reaction: Just...why??
If you zoom out, this feels rushed rather than thought through and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone This could age very differently in a week. That’s the impression it gives me.
Reaction: me_irl
Stepping back, the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that tension shows up immediately That’s just my read on it.
there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that friction is hard to ignore That’s what makes this interesting.
If we’re being honest, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified and that friction is hard to ignore That’s what changes the context.
Real talk, the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that’s why opinions are all over the place Let’s see what happens next.
At this point, the way this is presented changes how it lands and that’s where people will push back
From a neutral view, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome Not convinced this is settled yet.
To be fair, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified and that’s what people are responding to That part stands out. Others will probably see it differently.
To be fair, the wording alone shifts how people read this which makes the reaction pretty predictable That’s the key detail here. That’s just how it reads to me. That’s the impression it gives me.
the direction makes sense but the details are messy Feels like an opening move, not an ending. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Reaction: Me_irl
From a practical angle, this feels rushed rather than thought through which explains why reactions are split That’s what makes this interesting.
From the outside, this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that’s what people are responding to Feels like an opening move, not an ending.
Bluntly speaking, this reads stronger on paper than in practice and that’s what people are responding to Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
From where I sit, the direction makes sense but the details are messy which makes the reaction pretty predictable
the direction makes sense but the details are messy which is why this is getting picked apart
From where I sit, the follow-through is what will decide this which turns this into more of a debate This could age very differently in a week. Others will probably see it differently.
this feels rushed rather than thought through and that’s why opinions are all over the place
From a practical angle, the timing matters more than people admit We’ll see how people react over time.
Reaction: very shocking
If we’re being honest, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome which explains why reactions are split That’s what makes this interesting. That’s just how it reads to me.
Stepping back, this reads stronger on paper than in practice and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That’s what changes the context. Let’s see what happens next. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
the way this is presented changes how it lands Not convinced this is settled yet.
Without overthinking it, this solves one problem while creating another and that’s where the disagreement starts That’s just how it reads to me. That’s the impression it gives me.
Reaction: Conformity Gate
Just reading this, the way this is presented changes how it lands and that friction is hard to ignore Others will probably see it differently.
Trying to be fair, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone Feels like there’s more coming here.
If we’re being honest, the main issue seems to be how this is handled That’s what makes this interesting. This could age very differently in a week. That’s the impression it gives me.
Honestly, the main issue seems to be how this is handled which is why the comments look the way they do That’s the key detail here. Curious how this plays out. At least from my perspective.
Stepping back, the way this is presented changes how it lands and that’s the part people are stuck on Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Bluntly speaking, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified and that’s where the disagreement starts That part stands out.
From the outside, the timing matters more than people admit and that’s where people will push back That’s the key detail here.
At this point, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified That’s what makes this interesting. Not convinced this is settled yet.
the intention might be solid, the rollout less so and that tension shows up immediately
Trying to be fair, the direction makes sense but the details are messy Let’s see what happens next. That’s just my read on it.
If we’re being honest, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so and that’s where it gets complicated That’s what makes this interesting. Let’s see what happens next.
From a practical angle, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified That’s just my read on it.
Reaction: Just always
there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that’s the part people are stuck on That’s just my read on it.
Real talk, this reads stronger on paper than in practice That part stands out. Others will probably see it differently.
Without overthinking it, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that’s where the disagreement starts This could age very differently in a week.
I get the idea, this solves one problem while creating another At least from my perspective.
I get the idea, the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone This could age very differently in a week. That’s the impression it gives me.
Just reading this, this depends heavily on what happens next That’s what makes this interesting. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Real talk, this comes across more reactive than planned which explains why reactions are split Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
If you zoom out, the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s what people are responding to Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here That’s what changes the context.
If you zoom out, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone
From a neutral view, this feels rushed rather than thought through and that tension shows up immediately Feels like there’s more coming here. Others will probably see it differently.
this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone This could age very differently in a week. That’s the impression it gives me.
If you zoom out, the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that’s where the disagreement starts
Putting bias aside, the timing matters more than people admit so the response doesn’t surprise me That’s what changes the context.
Reaction: Just...why??
From a practical angle, the signal is clear, the strategy less so
there’s a lot said here but not much clarified Time will tell. At least from my perspective.
Not gonna lie, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so That’s what makes this interesting. Feels like an opening move, not an ending.
Just reading this, the main issue seems to be how this is handled Time will tell.
Honestly, the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that’s what people are responding to
the logic is there, but the execution is uneven and that’s what people are responding to That’s what makes this interesting. At least from my perspective.
Real talk, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone Curious how this plays out. That’s the impression it gives me.
the wording alone shifts how people read this Let’s see what happens next.
this depends heavily on what happens next and that tension shows up immediately We’ll see how people react over time.
Not gonna lie, the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that tension shows up immediately Interested to see the follow-up.