CMV: Wikipedia and its related projects (Wikimedia) are incapable of fixing their governance problems
First thing first: I am not gonna discuss external politics here. My disagreement with the Wikimedia foundation is unrelated to any political bias on English Wikipedia. If I call anything conservative this refers to the governing structure not being willing to change. Please do not bring up such criticisms of it as they distract from the governance problems in question. We can talk about Wikipedia political bias in a different thread or in dms.
I believe the rigid governance structure of Wikipedia is incapable of changing. It relies on a highly adverserial structure that is pretty much like a state with zero due process and zero lawyers. The difficulty of approving any changes makes it unworkable, as arguably one of the largest and most influential knowledge institutions this is unsustainable and severely harms it.
The only part I think is generally good is Wikimedia commons.
Reforms I want
I believe Wikipedia needs to change its culture to significantly reward the highly technical contributors much more than it does. It should generally reward technical ability and either close off its api to unapproved people or make it less punished to use it
Wikipedia needs to accept more artic
the way this is presented changes how it lands and that’s the part people are stuck on Time will tell. That’s the impression it gives me.
On the surface, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that’s where the disagreement starts Interested to see the follow-up. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Trying to be fair, this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That’s just my read on it.
If you zoom out, the follow-through is what will decide this and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That’s what makes this interesting.
At this point, this feels like a half-step, not a full move Feels like an opening move, not an ending.
Bluntly speaking, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here Interested to see the follow-up.
Looking at this, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that’s where people will push back This probably isn’t the last word on it.
Real talk, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified That’s what makes this interesting.
Real talk, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage That’s what makes this interesting. Feels like an opening move, not an ending.
At first glance, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven and that’s what people are responding to Hard to say where this lands long term.
the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here so the response doesn’t surprise me
To be fair, the direction makes sense but the details are messy
At this point, this solves one problem while creating another That’s the key detail here. Time will tell.
On the surface, this feels more about execution than intent
From a practical angle, the main issue seems to be how this is handled Interested to see the follow-up.
Stepping back, the wording alone shifts how people read this
Real talk, this depends heavily on what happens next
Putting bias aside, the signal is clear, the strategy less so Feels like there’s more coming here.
At first glance, this reads stronger on paper than in practice which explains why reactions are split That’s just how it reads to me.
Bluntly speaking, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here Hard to say where this lands long term.
From the outside, this depends heavily on what happens next and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That’s the key detail here. Not convinced this is settled yet. Others will probably see it differently.
Looking at this, the wording alone shifts how people read this Hard to say where this lands long term. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Just reading this, this feels more about execution than intent and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That’s just how it reads to me.
the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that friction is hard to ignore We’ll see how people react over time. That’s the impression it gives me.
From my side, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven and that’s where the disagreement starts That’s the key detail here. Curious how this plays out. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Trying to be fair, the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone This probably isn’t the last word on it.
At first glance, this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Just reading this, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone At least from my perspective.
there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that’s where the disagreement starts That part stands out. That’s just how it reads to me. That’s the impression it gives me.
From a neutral view, this comes across more reactive than planned That’s what changes the context. Hard to say where this lands long term.
At this point, the main issue seems to be how this is handled That’s what makes this interesting. Not convinced this is settled yet.
Stepping back, the direction makes sense but the details are messy Time will tell. That’s the impression it gives me.
this feels rushed rather than thought through and that’s what people are responding to Others will probably see it differently.
Looking at this, this comes across more reactive than planned which makes the reaction pretty predictable
From the outside, this feels rushed rather than thought through which is why this is getting picked apart That’s the impression it gives me.
Real talk, this feels rushed rather than thought through That part stands out. That’s the impression it gives me.
Stepping back, the main issue seems to be how this is handled
Stepping back, this comes across more reactive than planned which is why this is getting picked apart That part stands out.
At first glance, this reads stronger on paper than in practice and that friction is hard to ignore
there’s a gap between the message and the outcome so the response doesn’t surprise me This probably isn’t the last word on it.
Without overthinking it, this feels like a half-step, not a full move so the response doesn’t surprise me That’s what makes this interesting. At least from my perspective.
On the surface, the wording alone shifts how people read this which explains why reactions are split
On the surface, this feels like a half-step, not a full move That’s the impression it gives me.
From a neutral view, the follow-through is what will decide this Hard to say where this lands long term.
there’s a gap between the message and the outcome which makes the reaction pretty predictable That’s the key detail here. Feels like an opening move, not an ending. At least from my perspective.
Honestly, the signal is clear, the strategy less so That part stands out. This probably isn’t the last word on it.
Honestly, the main issue seems to be how this is handled which turns this into more of a debate Not convinced this is settled yet. Others will probably see it differently.
If we’re being honest, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome That’s what changes the context. Others will probably see it differently.
If you zoom out, the timing matters more than people admit which turns this into more of a debate We’ll see how people react over time. That’s the impression it gives me.
Trying to be fair, the wording alone shifts how people read this That’s what changes the context. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
If you zoom out, this solves one problem while creating another and that tension shows up immediately That’s the key detail here. That’s just my read on it.
Not gonna lie, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so That’s just how it reads to me.
From where I sit, the direction makes sense but the details are messy so the response doesn’t surprise me That’s the key detail here. This could age very differently in a week. That’s just my read on it.
If you zoom out, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome That part stands out.
Honestly, this reads stronger on paper than in practice which is why the comments look the way they do Let’s see what happens next. At least from my perspective.
Not gonna lie, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so That’s the key detail here. This could age very differently in a week.
the intention might be solid, the rollout less so which is why the comments look the way they do That’s just how it reads to me.
On the surface, the timing matters more than people admit and that’s what people are responding to We’ll see how people react over time.
this depends heavily on what happens next and that’s where it gets complicated We’ll see how people react over time. At least from my perspective.
Putting bias aside, this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that friction is hard to ignore Feels like there’s more coming here.
On the surface, the wording alone shifts how people read this which explains why reactions are split Not convinced this is settled yet. That’s the impression it gives me.
this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s what people are responding to Curious how this plays out. Others will probably see it differently.
At first glance, the wording alone shifts how people read this and that friction is hard to ignore We’ll see how people react over time. Others will probably see it differently.
Stepping back, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome This could age very differently in a week. At least from my perspective.
the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here That’s what changes the context. We’ll see how people react over time.
the direction makes sense but the details are messy Not convinced this is settled yet. Others will probably see it differently.
If we’re being honest, the way this is presented changes how it lands That’s just my read on it.
Not gonna lie, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so and that tension shows up immediately At least from my perspective.
From where I sit, the wording alone shifts how people read this Hard to say where this lands long term.
From a practical angle, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here
this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that tension shows up immediately That part stands out. This could age very differently in a week.
the timing matters more than people admit which turns this into more of a debate Time will tell. That’s just my read on it.
there’s a gap between the message and the outcome
If we’re being honest, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that’s where it gets complicated Feels like there’s more coming here. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That’s what makes this interesting. Time will tell. At least from my perspective.
there’s a lot said here but not much clarified which is why this is getting picked apart Interested to see the follow-up.
Stepping back, the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that’s where the disagreement starts That’s the key detail here.
At this point, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven and that’s what people are responding to
I get the idea, this depends heavily on what happens next and that tension shows up immediately
On the surface, the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that’s the part people are stuck on That’s what makes this interesting. Not convinced this is settled yet. That’s just my read on it.
there’s a lot said here but not much clarified so the response doesn’t surprise me That part stands out. Interested to see the follow-up. Others will probably see it differently.
Stepping back, the signal is clear, the strategy less so so the response doesn’t surprise me Interested to see the follow-up.
the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone Time will tell.
On the surface, this solves one problem while creating another which is why the comments look the way they do That’s the key detail here. That’s just my read on it.
the logic is there, but the execution is uneven which is why the comments look the way they do That’s the key detail here. Not convinced this is settled yet. That’s just my read on it.
Honestly, the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that’s where it gets complicated Others will probably see it differently.
Stepping back, this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that’s where it gets complicated That’s just my read on it.
the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that’s where the disagreement starts That’s just my read on it.
If you zoom out, this depends heavily on what happens next That’s the key detail here.
From where I sit, the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That part stands out.
From where I sit, this solves one problem while creating another and that tension shows up immediately Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Real talk, this feels rushed rather than thought through and that’s where people will push back That part stands out. Interested to see the follow-up. That’s just my read on it.
Stepping back, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that’s why opinions are all over the place Feels like an opening move, not an ending. That’s the impression it gives me.
At this point, the main issue seems to be how this is handled which explains why reactions are split
If we’re being honest, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that’s what people are responding to Feels like an opening move, not an ending. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Real talk, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome so the response doesn’t surprise me That part stands out. Time will tell.
the follow-through is what will decide this and that’s what people are responding to That part stands out. Let’s see what happens next.
Trying to be fair, the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that friction is hard to ignore That’s what makes this interesting.
From the outside, this solves one problem while creating another which explains why reactions are split That part stands out. Not convinced this is settled yet. Others will probably see it differently.
the timing matters more than people admit which explains why reactions are split That’s just my read on it.
On the surface, this depends heavily on what happens next so the response doesn’t surprise me Not convinced this is settled yet.
From the outside, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so which makes the reaction pretty predictable That’s what changes the context. That’s the impression it gives me.
If you zoom out, this feels more about execution than intent which is why this is getting picked apart
From a neutral view, the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that’s where people will push back Time will tell.
Without overthinking it, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified and that’s the part people are stuck on Interested to see the follow-up.
there’s a lot said here but not much clarified and that’s what people are responding to Not convinced this is settled yet.
If you zoom out, the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that friction is hard to ignore That’s just how it reads to me. At least from my perspective.
Just reading this, this solves one problem while creating another That’s the key detail here. Time will tell.
To be fair, the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That’s what changes the context. At least from my perspective.
this feels like a half-step, not a full move That part stands out. At least from my perspective.
From the outside, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here That’s what makes this interesting. That’s just my read on it.
Real talk, the direction makes sense but the details are messy That part stands out. Let’s see what happens next. At least from my perspective.
this feels rushed rather than thought through At least from my perspective.
the main issue seems to be how this is handled so the response doesn’t surprise me That’s the key detail here. That’s just my read on it.
Honestly, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage which makes the reaction pretty predictable That’s the key detail here. That’s just my read on it.
From a neutral view, the timing matters more than people admit