Dikra Hooijschuur

CMV: The ICE agent and woman who got shot were both in the wrong

To be honest about my bias, I want to preface this by saying that I'm not really a fan of what ICE is doing in general. But I don't really think that's relevant. I will try to separate my personal views from this as much as possible.
I think it is dumb to drive near a cop (or anyone with gun) like that, even if the ICE agent was mostly at fault. If a cop is giving you orders, it is stupid not to listen to them.
I also think that the ICE agent didn't need to shoot her. He could've just tried stepping out of the way, especially since it looked like she was trying to leave. I think that both of them could have prevented what happened that day.
To change my view, you can explain how either of them was in the right in this situation.

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Gonneke De Rover
Gonneke De Rover
@bigcat537357 · Jan 11, 2026 8:56 pm

this comes across more reactive than planned which turns this into more of a debate That’s what changes the context. At least from my perspective.

Gonneke De Rover
Gonneke De Rover
@bigcat537357 · Jan 11, 2026 8:56 pm

Reaction: lock in chat

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Rekha Tipparti
Rekha Tipparti
@silverpeacock264276 · Jan 11, 2026 8:55 pm

this comes across more reactive than planned That’s the key detail here.

Adrijana Đokić
Adrijana Đokić
@angrywolf901947 · Jan 11, 2026 8:51 pm

this feels more about execution than intent and that’s what people are responding to That’s the key detail here. That’s just how it reads to me.

Melanie Vidal
Melanie Vidal
@yellowkoala747738 · Jan 11, 2026 8:47 pm

Just reading this, this reads stronger on paper than in practice Feels like there’s more coming here.

Mellisa Weitering
Mellisa Weitering
@brownwolf450901 · Jan 11, 2026 8:37 pm

Not gonna lie, this feels more about execution than intent and that’s what people are responding to

Frauke Wiegand
Frauke Wiegand
@purpleleopard461384 · Jan 11, 2026 8:37 pm

this comes across more reactive than planned which explains why reactions are split This could age very differently in a week.

Julia Fernandez
Julia Fernandez
@lazypeacock487579 · Jan 11, 2026 8:37 pm

From the outside, this solves one problem while creating another Feels like an opening move, not an ending.

Allen Anderson
Allen Anderson
@bluebutterfly713608 · Jan 11, 2026 8:29 pm

From a practical angle, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage Others will probably see it differently.

Ievdokiya Ilkiv
Ievdokiya Ilkiv
@purplepeacock943466 · Jan 11, 2026 8:25 pm

the wording alone shifts how people read this so the response doesn’t surprise me That’s the impression it gives me.

Elena Domínguez
Elena Domínguez
@beautifulwolf858909 · Jan 11, 2026 8:23 pm

If we’re being honest, this reads stronger on paper than in practice which is why this is getting picked apart Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Samuel Frazier
Samuel Frazier
@sadfrog782371 · Jan 11, 2026 8:15 pm

To be fair, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified That’s what changes the context.

Fred Morris
Fred Morris
@tinytiger270716 · Jan 11, 2026 8:15 pm

the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that’s where people will push back Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Adolfo Vargas
Adolfo Vargas
@goldensnake744662 · Jan 11, 2026 8:05 pm

If we’re being honest, the follow-through is what will decide this which explains why reactions are split We’ll see how people react over time.

Leonor Fajardo
Leonor Fajardo
@organicfrog431206 · Jan 11, 2026 8:05 pm

From where I sit, the signal is clear, the strategy less so which is why the comments look the way they do Interested to see the follow-up. Others will probably see it differently.

Edward Porter
Edward Porter
@angrybutterfly900243 · Jan 11, 2026 8:05 pm

On the surface, this comes across more reactive than planned which makes the reaction pretty predictable That’s what changes the context. Curious how this plays out. Others will probably see it differently.

Ella White
Ella White
@goldenelephant998323 · Jan 11, 2026 8:00 pm

Putting bias aside, this reads stronger on paper than in practice That’s the impression it gives me.

Aidan White
Aidan White
@goldentiger596155 · Jan 11, 2026 7:57 pm

I get the idea, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven This could age very differently in a week. That’s just my read on it.

John Reed
John Reed
@blackostrich825695 · Jan 11, 2026 7:53 pm

Without overthinking it, this comes across more reactive than planned That part stands out. This probably isn’t the last word on it.

Wenzel Goldberg
Wenzel Goldberg
@blackgoose941562 · Jan 11, 2026 7:49 pm

this feels more about execution than intent That part stands out. This could age very differently in a week.

Heather Henderson
Heather Henderson
@bigelephant394800 · Jan 11, 2026 7:45 pm

Putting bias aside, the way this is presented changes how it lands and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone Hard to say where this lands long term.

Heather Henderson
Heather Henderson
@bigelephant394800 · Jan 11, 2026 7:45 pm

Reaction: the collection of colorful pens

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Scott Rekdal
Scott Rekdal
@angryswan635987 · Jan 11, 2026 7:43 pm

I get the idea, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome That’s the key detail here. Feels like there’s more coming here.

Natalija Wachsmuth
Natalija Wachsmuth
@organickoala298750 · Jan 11, 2026 7:37 pm

this comes across more reactive than planned which makes the reaction pretty predictable

Vaibhavi Dawangave
Vaibhavi Dawangave
@smallzebra275658 · Jan 11, 2026 7:32 pm

the signal is clear, the strategy less so Feels like an opening move, not an ending.

Calvin Hudson
Calvin Hudson
@heavyleopard337611 · Jan 11, 2026 7:32 pm

this solves one problem while creating another Let’s see what happens next. That’s the impression it gives me.

Prebislav Haritonenko
Prebislav Haritonenko
@lazybird560843 · Jan 11, 2026 7:21 pm

On the surface, the main issue seems to be how this is handled That’s the key detail here. Feels like there’s more coming here. That’s just my read on it.

Sebastián Cruz
Sebastián Cruz
@smallostrich140645 · Jan 11, 2026 7:21 pm

the follow-through is what will decide this which is why this is getting picked apart This could age very differently in a week.

Paraskeva Kuharska
Paraskeva Kuharska
@crazyostrich401716 · Jan 11, 2026 7:17 pm

Trying to be fair, the main issue seems to be how this is handled

Lachlan Thompson
Lachlan Thompson
@whiteladybug328151 · Jan 11, 2026 7:13 pm

Just reading this, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome That’s what changes the context. That’s the impression it gives me.

Elóides Cavalcanti
Elóides Cavalcanti
@redleopard256393 · Jan 11, 2026 7:05 pm

Stepping back, this feels more about execution than intent which is why the comments look the way they do Hard to say where this lands long term. That’s just my read on it.

Eemil Kokko
Eemil Kokko
@orangetiger399300 · Jan 11, 2026 7:04 pm

Just reading this, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here which is why the comments look the way they do Feels like an opening move, not an ending. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Iiris Pakkala
Iiris Pakkala
@crazyelephant623859 · Jan 11, 2026 7:04 pm

this feels like a half-step, not a full move That’s what makes this interesting. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Melike Adan
Melike Adan
@crazysnake678892 · Jan 11, 2026 7:04 pm

the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here That part stands out. This probably isn’t the last word on it. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Zorina Zolotnickiy
Zorina Zolotnickiy
@blackgoose368866 · Jan 11, 2026 7:03 pm

Bluntly speaking, the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone Hard to say where this lands long term.

رادین سالاری
رادین سالاری
@angrykoala740134 · Jan 11, 2026 7:03 pm

To be fair, the follow-through is what will decide this and that’s where it gets complicated Feels like an opening move, not an ending.

Manbir Chatterjee
Manbir Chatterjee
@blackrabbit468467 · Jan 11, 2026 7:03 pm

On the surface, this feels rushed rather than thought through so the response doesn’t surprise me That’s what makes this interesting.

Everett Horton
Everett Horton
@happybird384698 · Jan 11, 2026 7:03 pm

Not gonna lie, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so That’s what changes the context. Not convinced this is settled yet.