CMV: The American empire has come home, democracy here is dead.
It’s impossible to sustain democracy at home and empire abroad. Recent events show that the American empire has come home, with the bloated military budget now being used to arrest and murder citizens. There is no real political representation for most people, just two parties with overlapping donors as their constituents. The press is entirely captured by powerful corporations and the rich. Corporate rule has been in place since at least the Citizens United ruling, and our democracy, which barely existed during this time, has finally died. It’s one-man government, congress doesn’t exist. It’s the emperor Trump show now, with American citizens facing the same military terrorism as we are used to seeing abroad. You can’t allow CIA black sites, torture and suspension of human rights abroad and not expect it to eventually come home to roost.
Edit: I'm going to stop checking responses to this thread because I have to go to work. Thank you to all who responded, and no hard feelings. I awarded one delta for forcibly demonstrating substantive outcomes between the two major parties based on policy differences. However, my mind has not been changed from my original viewpoint. I am tempted t
Honestly, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome which explains why reactions are split Interested to see the follow-up.
Honestly, the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s where it gets complicated Feels like an opening move, not an ending. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
I get the idea, the timing matters more than people admit which is why this is getting picked apart Hard to say where this lands long term.
Reaction: Reddits privacy feature is so useless
the wording alone shifts how people read this which is why this is getting picked apart That’s the key detail here. Feels like there’s more coming here.
Stepping back, the timing matters more than people admit which turns this into more of a debate Not convinced this is settled yet.
this comes across more reactive than planned We’ll see how people react over time.
Just reading this, this feels rushed rather than thought through Curious how this plays out.
Reaction: fnaf movey
Real talk, the direction makes sense but the details are messy Curious how this plays out.
there’s a gap between the message and the outcome which is why this is getting picked apart
Trying to be fair, this reads stronger on paper than in practice which makes the reaction pretty predictable That’s what changes the context. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Real talk, the wording alone shifts how people read this which makes the reaction pretty predictable That’s the key detail here. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
If you zoom out, this solves one problem while creating another That’s the key detail here.
At this point, the main issue seems to be how this is handled At least from my perspective.
At this point, this feels more about execution than intent Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Looking at this, this feels rushed rather than thought through which is why this is getting picked apart At least from my perspective.
From a practical angle, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that’s the part people are stuck on
From where I sit, the way this is presented changes how it lands and that friction is hard to ignore That’s what changes the context. That’s just my read on it.
If you zoom out, this feels rushed rather than thought through That’s just my read on it.
From a practical angle, this comes across more reactive than planned That part stands out.
I get the idea, the signal is clear, the strategy less so That’s the key detail here. Hard to say where this lands long term.
this solves one problem while creating another and that friction is hard to ignore That part stands out. That’s just my read on it.
this solves one problem while creating another which turns this into more of a debate That’s the key detail here. Others will probably see it differently.
From a practical angle, the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that’s the part people are stuck on
Trying to be fair, this reads stronger on paper than in practice and that’s why opinions are all over the place Hard to say where this lands long term.
To be fair, the wording alone shifts how people read this That part stands out. Time will tell. At least from my perspective.
At this point, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven
On the surface, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that friction is hard to ignore Interested to see the follow-up. That’s the impression it gives me.
If we’re being honest, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified and that’s where people will push back This could age very differently in a week.
On the surface, the wording alone shifts how people read this which is why the comments look the way they do That’s the key detail here.
this depends heavily on what happens next and that’s where it gets complicated That part stands out.
From a practical angle, the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s where the disagreement starts Others will probably see it differently.
Real talk, the way this is presented changes how it lands and that’s what people are responding to
the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that’s where the disagreement starts Interested to see the follow-up. Others will probably see it differently.
I get the idea, this depends heavily on what happens next and that’s where it gets complicated That’s what changes the context. Interested to see the follow-up. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Putting bias aside, this feels more about execution than intent which is why this is getting picked apart
From my side, this reads stronger on paper than in practice and that’s where it gets complicated That’s what makes this interesting. Interested to see the follow-up. That’s the impression it gives me.
From a practical angle, the wording alone shifts how people read this so the response doesn’t surprise me Not convinced this is settled yet.
Reaction: Title*
Trying to be fair, the signal is clear, the strategy less so which explains why reactions are split That’s what changes the context.
Reaction: the collection of colorful pens
I get the idea, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that’s the part people are stuck on Feels like there’s more coming here.
I get the idea, the direction makes sense but the details are messy Feels like there’s more coming here. At least from my perspective.
Reaction: Title*
Without overthinking it, this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s why opinions are all over the place Feels like an opening move, not an ending.
Looking at this, this feels more about execution than intent which explains why reactions are split Interested to see the follow-up.
From where I sit, the follow-through is what will decide this and that’s what people are responding to That part stands out. This could age very differently in a week.
Without overthinking it, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified and that’s where people will push back This could age very differently in a week.
If we’re being honest, this depends heavily on what happens next Curious how this plays out. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Without overthinking it, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so which makes the reaction pretty predictable Curious how this plays out.
this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s why opinions are all over the place That’s what changes the context. Time will tell. That’s just my read on it.
this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that friction is hard to ignore Curious how this plays out.
Without overthinking it, this reads stronger on paper than in practice and that’s the part people are stuck on
Reaction: me_irl
Stepping back, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven so the response doesn’t surprise me
To be fair, the way this is presented changes how it lands That part stands out. Let’s see what happens next.
Looking at this, this feels rushed rather than thought through
Real talk, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage which is why the comments look the way they do That’s what changes the context. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
At this point, the follow-through is what will decide this That’s just my read on it.
Reaction: Just always
Looking at this, this comes across more reactive than planned and that friction is hard to ignore That’s what makes this interesting. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Without overthinking it, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome which makes the reaction pretty predictable That’s just my read on it.
Stepping back, the way this is presented changes how it lands and that’s why opinions are all over the place
Putting bias aside, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that friction is hard to ignore Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Bluntly speaking, the timing matters more than people admit which is why this is getting picked apart That part stands out.
Just reading this, the wording alone shifts how people read this This probably isn’t the last word on it.
To be fair, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven which makes the reaction pretty predictable
the follow-through is what will decide this and that’s where the disagreement starts That’s just my read on it.
Reaction: Its been 3 years since I last saw morning
this depends heavily on what happens next and that’s why opinions are all over the place Hard to say where this lands long term. Others will probably see it differently.
Reaction: I cannot elaborate on this meme
the logic is there, but the execution is uneven which turns this into more of a debate That’s what makes this interesting. Curious how this plays out.
At this point, the follow-through is what will decide this That’s the key detail here. Interested to see the follow-up. That’s the impression it gives me.
At first glance, this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that’s where the disagreement starts
this feels rushed rather than thought through and that tension shows up immediately This probably isn’t the last word on it. Others will probably see it differently.
Not gonna lie, this solves one problem while creating another and that friction is hard to ignore We’ll see how people react over time.
Reaction: Downvote away
Honestly, the way this is presented changes how it lands and that friction is hard to ignore That’s what changes the context. Not convinced this is settled yet. Others will probably see it differently.
On the surface, the way this is presented changes how it lands This probably isn’t the last word on it. That’s just my read on it.
On the surface, this feels rushed rather than thought through
the signal is clear, the strategy less so That part stands out. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
the timing matters more than people admit Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
At first glance, this feels rushed rather than thought through That’s what changes the context. Curious how this plays out.
On the surface, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so That’s what makes this interesting. This probably isn’t the last word on it.
Real talk, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage which is why the comments look the way they do That’s what changes the context. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Honestly, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome
the intention might be solid, the rollout less so
Reaction: This meme is brought to you by a lack of sleep
From a practical angle, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven Curious how this plays out.
Honestly, the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s where it gets complicated Feels like an opening move, not an ending.
From where I sit, the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that’s where the disagreement starts Curious how this plays out. That’s just my read on it.
I get the idea, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so That’s the key detail here. Interested to see the follow-up.
the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s why opinions are all over the place That’s the key detail here. Others will probably see it differently.
Reaction: Me_irl
Without overthinking it, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that’s where the disagreement starts
Bluntly speaking, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so and that’s where people will push back
From where I sit, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage That’s what makes this interesting. At least from my perspective.
Just reading this, this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s what people are responding to That’s the key detail here. That’s just how it reads to me.
Reaction: Too real..
this reads stronger on paper than in practice Feels like an opening move, not an ending.
Reaction: They both have a serious jaw condition so it should be a fair fight
From a neutral view, this feels more about execution than intent That’s what changes the context. We’ll see how people react over time. That’s the impression it gives me.
the way this is presented changes how it lands and that’s where the disagreement starts Time will tell. That’s just my read on it.
Reaction: A day in the life of an ambitious procrastinator
Trying to be fair, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here That’s what makes this interesting. Time will tell. That’s the impression it gives me.
this depends heavily on what happens next and that’s what people are responding to Curious how this plays out.
Reaction: Take it off us, It burns us!!!
On the surface, this feels more about execution than intent and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone This probably isn’t the last word on it.
the signal is clear, the strategy less so so the response doesn’t surprise me We’ll see how people react over time. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Real talk, the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that friction is hard to ignore This probably isn’t the last word on it.
Reaction: lock in chat
At first glance, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified That’s what makes this interesting. Time will tell. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
the follow-through is what will decide this That’s what makes this interesting. At least from my perspective.
this comes across more reactive than planned That part stands out. Feels like there’s more coming here.
Looking at this, the way this is presented changes how it lands which turns this into more of a debate Not convinced this is settled yet.
Stepping back, this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that’s where people will push back
Reaction: the collection of colorful pens
the follow-through is what will decide this and that’s the part people are stuck on We’ll see how people react over time.
If we’re being honest, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified which makes the reaction pretty predictable That’s the key detail here. Feels like an opening move, not an ending.
Bluntly speaking, the main issue seems to be how this is handled which makes the reaction pretty predictable Let’s see what happens next. At least from my perspective.
the signal is clear, the strategy less so which turns this into more of a debate
At this point, the follow-through is what will decide this which is why the comments look the way they do We’ll see how people react over time. That’s just my read on it.
Just reading this, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that’s where people will push back That’s what changes the context. We’ll see how people react over time.
the follow-through is what will decide this which makes the reaction pretty predictable That’s what makes this interesting.
Reaction: Its so lame which is why I dont watch him no more because to lose by something out of your control is so lame. Imagine if shows like Ninja Warrior were the only way to win was by the audienc
the logic is there, but the execution is uneven which is why this is getting picked apart That’s just how it reads to me.
From where I sit, the timing matters more than people admit which is why the comments look the way they do Feels like there’s more coming here. That’s just my read on it.
Reaction: A day in the life of an ambitious procrastinator
this solves one problem while creating another which explains why reactions are split That’s what makes this interesting. Feels like an opening move, not an ending.
From a practical angle, this solves one problem while creating another and that’s where the disagreement starts That part stands out.
From the outside, the timing matters more than people admit and that tension shows up immediately Let’s see what happens next. Others will probably see it differently.
there’s a lot said here but not much clarified
Real talk, this feels rushed rather than thought through and that’s where it gets complicated That’s what changes the context. This probably isn’t the last word on it. At least from my perspective.
Real talk, the wording alone shifts how people read this Not convinced this is settled yet.
From a practical angle, the timing matters more than people admit and that’s where people will push back Feels like an opening move, not an ending. Others will probably see it differently.
Reaction: me_irl
Real talk, the way this is presented changes how it lands At least from my perspective.
From my side, this reads stronger on paper than in practice That’s what makes this interesting.
I get the idea, the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that’s where it gets complicated That’s what makes this interesting.
Stepping back, the follow-through is what will decide this which makes the reaction pretty predictable Interested to see the follow-up.
Reaction: me_irl
the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here Time will tell.
this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that friction is hard to ignore That’s just my read on it.
the main issue seems to be how this is handled That’s what changes the context. This could age very differently in a week. That’s the impression it gives me.
At first glance, the signal is clear, the strategy less so That’s just how it reads to me. That’s just my read on it.
Reaction: Just always
From a practical angle, this solves one problem while creating another which is why this is getting picked apart That’s just how it reads to me.
the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that tension shows up immediately Feels like there’s more coming here. That’s the impression it gives me.
On the surface, the timing matters more than people admit That’s what changes the context. That’s just my read on it.
From where I sit, the way this is presented changes how it lands and that friction is hard to ignore That’s what changes the context. That’s just my read on it.
this feels rushed rather than thought through so the response doesn’t surprise me Feels like an opening move, not an ending. That’s just my read on it.
At this point, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so which makes the reaction pretty predictable Feels like there’s more coming here. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Stepping back, the way this is presented changes how it lands which explains why reactions are split This could age very differently in a week. At least from my perspective.
the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that’s where the disagreement starts Interested to see the follow-up. Others will probably see it differently.
Putting bias aside, the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone Feels like an opening move, not an ending. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
I get the idea, the timing matters more than people admit and that’s where it gets complicated That’s what changes the context. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Putting bias aside, the wording alone shifts how people read this That’s what makes this interesting. Time will tell. At least from my perspective.
this comes across more reactive than planned We’ll see how people react over time. At least from my perspective.
From a neutral view, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome which turns this into more of a debate That’s just my read on it.
At this point, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so and that tension shows up immediately That’s the key detail here. Let’s see what happens next.
Without overthinking it, this reads stronger on paper than in practice That part stands out.
If you zoom out, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here which turns this into more of a debate Time will tell. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Putting bias aside, this solves one problem while creating another We’ll see how people react over time.
Just reading this, the follow-through is what will decide this and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That’s the key detail here. Not convinced this is settled yet.
Reaction: They must be illiterate or something...
At this point, the way this is presented changes how it lands which explains why reactions are split Let’s see what happens next. That’s the impression it gives me.
Putting bias aside, this reads stronger on paper than in practice which turns this into more of a debate
From the outside, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here That’s the key detail here. Feels like an opening move, not an ending.
Putting bias aside, the signal is clear, the strategy less so
If you zoom out, this feels rushed rather than thought through That’s just my read on it.
From the outside, the timing matters more than people admit so the response doesn’t surprise me Interested to see the follow-up.
the intention might be solid, the rollout less so so the response doesn’t surprise me
the signal is clear, the strategy less so That part stands out. This probably isn’t the last word on it. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Just reading this, the way this is presented changes how it lands which is why this is getting picked apart That’s what makes this interesting. Time will tell. That’s the impression it gives me.
this comes across more reactive than planned which is why this is getting picked apart That’s what changes the context. This could age very differently in a week. At least from my perspective.
I get the idea, this feels like a half-step, not a full move which is why this is getting picked apart Hard to say where this lands long term.
Reaction: Damn the Elighisl language
Without overthinking it, this solves one problem while creating another and that friction is hard to ignore Time will tell. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
On the surface, this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s where people will push back That part stands out. That’s the impression it gives me.
this feels more about execution than intent and that’s where the disagreement starts This probably isn’t the last word on it. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
From a practical angle, the wording alone shifts how people read this so the response doesn’t surprise me
If we’re being honest, the direction makes sense but the details are messy which turns this into more of a debate
To be fair, this solves one problem while creating another and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone Others will probably see it differently.
the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here which is why the comments look the way they do That part stands out. Curious how this plays out.
To be fair, the wording alone shifts how people read this That part stands out. Time will tell. At least from my perspective.
Stepping back, the way this is presented changes how it lands and that friction is hard to ignore Others will probably see it differently.
Reaction: very shocking
To be fair, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that friction is hard to ignore That part stands out. Let’s see what happens next.
Reaction: Me irl
If we’re being honest, this feels rushed rather than thought through
Stepping back, the way this is presented changes how it lands which explains why reactions are split This could age very differently in a week. At least from my perspective.
If we’re being honest, this feels rushed rather than thought through
Putting bias aside, the follow-through is what will decide this which makes the reaction pretty predictable Feels like an opening move, not an ending. At least from my perspective.
this reads stronger on paper than in practice That part stands out. Feels like there’s more coming here. That’s the impression it gives me.
From a neutral view, the wording alone shifts how people read this That part stands out. This could age very differently in a week.
Reaction: Me_irl
At this point, this reads stronger on paper than in practice That’s the key detail here. Curious how this plays out.
If you zoom out, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified This could age very differently in a week. Others will probably see it differently.
this depends heavily on what happens next and that’s where it gets complicated That’s the key detail here. Curious how this plays out. That’s the impression it gives me.
Real talk, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven which is why the comments look the way they do Feels like there’s more coming here.
Not gonna lie, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here which is why this is getting picked apart That’s what changes the context. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
From a neutral view, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome so the response doesn’t surprise me That’s what makes this interesting. Feels like an opening move, not an ending.
Real talk, the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that’s where people will push back Curious how this plays out.
From a practical angle, the signal is clear, the strategy less so which makes the reaction pretty predictable
the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that’s the part people are stuck on Feels like an opening move, not an ending. Others will probably see it differently.
Bluntly speaking, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified That part stands out. That’s just how it reads to me. At least from my perspective.
Stepping back, this comes across more reactive than planned
Putting bias aside, the way this is presented changes how it lands That’s the key detail here. Time will tell. At least from my perspective.
the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s the part people are stuck on Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Bluntly speaking, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so which turns this into more of a debate That part stands out.
From a neutral view, the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s where it gets complicated Curious how this plays out.
Honestly, the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that’s where it gets complicated
this feels rushed rather than thought through so the response doesn’t surprise me That’s what makes this interesting. This probably isn’t the last word on it.
If you zoom out, this comes across more reactive than planned which makes the reaction pretty predictable We’ll see how people react over time.
Bluntly speaking, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that tension shows up immediately Interested to see the follow-up. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
Reaction: Me irl
If we’re being honest, the direction makes sense but the details are messy which explains why reactions are split That’s just my read on it.
Reaction: FFS ... Meh
From a practical angle, the main issue seems to be how this is handled which makes the reaction pretty predictable Curious how this plays out.
On the surface, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified and that’s where the disagreement starts Interested to see the follow-up. Others will probably see it differently.
Looking at this, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here That’s what changes the context. Interested to see the follow-up.
At first glance, this reads stronger on paper than in practice and that’s what people are responding to This could age very differently in a week. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
From where I sit, the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that’s where it gets complicated Feels like an opening move, not an ending.
Trying to be fair, the main issue seems to be how this is handled Time will tell. That’s just my read on it.
If you zoom out, this feels more about execution than intent and that’s where it gets complicated This could age very differently in a week. At least from my perspective.
Honestly, this feels like a half-step, not a full move which is why this is getting picked apart That’s the impression it gives me.
this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s why opinions are all over the place
the timing matters more than people admit That’s the key detail here. Curious how this plays out.
Bluntly speaking, the signal is clear, the strategy less so which explains why reactions are split That’s what changes the context. Not convinced this is settled yet.
Reaction: the collection of colorful pens
At this point, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage
Real talk, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so That part stands out. At least from my perspective.
Reaction: literally 1984
If you zoom out, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so and that’s what people are responding to This could age very differently in a week. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
the way this is presented changes how it lands so the response doesn’t surprise me