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CMV: ICE has become exactly the tyranny the framers had in mind when drafting the 2nd Amendment.

Legally protected, anonymous armed thugs from HUGE central government, going into residential areas and kidnapping people on vague suspicion, murdering citizens in cold blood. A wholesale assault on our constitutional rights as American citizens. This is precisely the kind of operation that the framers would have considered tyranny—even if not in intent, certainly in practice. We can’t sue, can’t charge, and can’t lawfully resist. Fuck every single last ICE agent and every craven motherfucker that voted for this. By the way, here’s what the Heritage Foundation, architects of Project 2025, have to say about it: “A well-armed citizenry acts as a major check on the ability of would-be tyrants, enabling the people to forcibly resist oppression. In the United States, our constitutional system is premised on the theory that, in a truly free society, ultimate power lies with the people and not with the government. But should the government forget this basic principle, the people maintain the practical power that comes with being armed for their own defense. The threat of tyranny and oppression is very real, even today.” To Change My View, convince me that a federal secret police force (if

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Taylor Cooper
Taylor Cooper
@blackgoose754997 · Jan 11, 2026 11:54 am

At first glance, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven and that’s the part people are stuck on Interested to see the follow-up. That’s the impression it gives me.

کیانا احمدی
کیانا احمدی
@smalltiger503267 · Jan 11, 2026 11:47 am

I get the idea, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified That’s just how it reads to me.

Sofia Ibáñez
Sofia Ibáñez
@blackfrog649906 · Jan 11, 2026 11:42 am

I get the idea, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so That part stands out.

Sofia Ibáñez
Sofia Ibáñez
@blackfrog649906 · Jan 11, 2026 11:42 am

Reaction: me irl

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Line Gulli
Line Gulli
@smallmouse467954 · Jan 11, 2026 11:38 am

Reaction: Not again.

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Clarice Souza
Clarice Souza
@purplesnake190597 · Jan 11, 2026 11:38 am

Reaction: Jiggle physics

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Yasmijn Temmink
Yasmijn Temmink
@heavybird730817 · Jan 11, 2026 11:38 am

Reaction: me_irl

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Morgan Haidari
Morgan Haidari
@blackbear564215 · Jan 11, 2026 11:38 am

Reaction: Jiggle physics

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Morgan Haidari
Morgan Haidari
@blackbear564215 · Jan 11, 2026 11:38 am

Just reading this, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so That’s what makes this interesting.

Libid Kostenko
Libid Kostenko
@crazyfish109440 · Jan 11, 2026 11:32 am

Reaction: Me irl

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Norbert Baran
Norbert Baran
@angryostrich573990 · Jan 11, 2026 11:30 am

the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s where people will push back That’s the key detail here. Time will tell. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Zora Ivanović
Zora Ivanović
@goldenswan878714 · Jan 11, 2026 11:17 am

I get the idea, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified which is why this is getting picked apart Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.