Chloe Lillevik

CMV: I’d be pacifist even in a global conflict.

With things as they are at the moment, I’ve been finding my strict attitude to resisting war challenged. I’m a Brit who was brought up by my father in a strictly pacifist way - the only things I could do to be disowned would be joining the military and the police force.
The argument that has always held strongest for me was ’the young person on the other side is just like you. They’re having a gun put in their hands and ideologies shoved down their necks, then taken to the frontline’. That the only way to break the use of working classes as cannon fodder is to refuse no matter the consequences. That killing another human in a conflict you didn’t start, and didn’t design, at the behest of another is nonsensical and wrong, and direct action is the only way to stop it.
This is obviously coming from a very specific post war set of views of politics and class. I had a conversation with my step sister last week, talking about the powderkeg of a geopolitical situation in Europe atm, where she was shocked that I would refuse the draft. And that shocked me in turn: when the possibility seemed remote it was easy to take my position for granted, but now there’s a serious chance it would be te

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Antoine Lavoie
Antoine Lavoie
@silverfrog707950 · Jan 12, 2026 9:31 am

At this point, the way this is presented changes how it lands which is why the comments look the way they do That’s just how it reads to me.

Yvonne Faure
Yvonne Faure
@greenswan808806 · Jan 12, 2026 9:31 am

there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that’s where the disagreement starts Let’s see what happens next.

Matthieu Vincent
Matthieu Vincent
@tinybutterfly967179 · Jan 12, 2026 9:31 am

To be fair, this reads stronger on paper than in practice Curious how this plays out.

Emmi Leinonen
Emmi Leinonen
@lazyzebra982886 · Jan 12, 2026 8:01 am

Trying to be fair, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so That’s the key detail here.

نیایش احمدی
نیایش احمدی
@silverdog400966 · Jan 12, 2026 8:01 am

At first glance, this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s where it gets complicated Feels like there’s more coming here.

Porfirio Maestas
Porfirio Maestas
@bluerabbit493966 · Jan 12, 2026 8:01 am

From a practical angle, the wording alone shifts how people read this which makes the reaction pretty predictable This could age very differently in a week.

Maria Fuller
Maria Fuller
@bigkoala514913 · Jan 12, 2026 8:01 am

Just reading this, this reads stronger on paper than in practice Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Luca Evans
Luca Evans
@orangelion270252 · Jan 12, 2026 8:01 am

this solves one problem while creating another

Nalan Köybaşı
Nalan Köybaşı
@tinybird957116 · Jan 12, 2026 8:00 am

the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here Let’s see what happens next. Others will probably see it differently.

Margarita Ramos
Margarita Ramos
@organicpeacock642430 · Jan 12, 2026 8:00 am

the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here This could age very differently in a week.

Juan Hidalgo
Juan Hidalgo
@redmouse610303 · Jan 12, 2026 8:00 am

If you zoom out, this feels like a half-step, not a full move so the response doesn’t surprise me

Francisca Suarez
Francisca Suarez
@crazybutterfly940197 · Jan 12, 2026 7:59 am

Putting bias aside, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here which is why the comments look the way they do Interested to see the follow-up. That’s just my read on it.

Mylan Nguyen
Mylan Nguyen
@heavybutterfly607670 · Jan 12, 2026 7:59 am

Honestly, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified Time will tell.

Mechislava Skochilyas
Mechislava Skochilyas
@sadbird356390 · Jan 12, 2026 7:59 am

To be fair, this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that friction is hard to ignore At least from my perspective.

Melanie Vidal
Melanie Vidal
@yellowkoala747738 · Jan 12, 2026 7:59 am

Real talk, this feels more about execution than intent and that’s what people are responding to This probably isn’t the last word on it.

Dhanush Mathew
Dhanush Mathew
@yellowtiger486479 · Jan 12, 2026 7:59 am

From a neutral view, this feels like a half-step, not a full move Hard to say where this lands long term.

Wayne Terry
Wayne Terry
@happyduck675728 · Jan 12, 2026 7:59 am

Real talk, this feels more about execution than intent which explains why reactions are split

Aria Moore
Aria Moore
@bluerabbit181219 · Jan 12, 2026 7:59 am

If you zoom out, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome which makes the reaction pretty predictable

Mohamed Rubio
Mohamed Rubio
@sadduck359217 · Jan 12, 2026 7:58 am

Bluntly speaking, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that’s where the disagreement starts Time will tell.

Florence Williams
Florence Williams
@browndog389809 · Jan 12, 2026 7:58 am

Trying to be fair, the wording alone shifts how people read this That’s just my read on it.

Abida Manten
Abida Manten
@orangetiger135317 · Jan 12, 2026 7:58 am

this feels rushed rather than thought through and that’s where the disagreement starts

Carina Girard
Carina Girard
@beautifulduck750895 · Jan 12, 2026 7:58 am

If you zoom out, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here Time will tell.

Mestan Akar
Mestan Akar
@lazyfish757527 · Jan 12, 2026 7:58 am

Just reading this, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so and that’s the part people are stuck on This could age very differently in a week. Others will probably see it differently.

Faustine Robin
Faustine Robin
@blacklion427263 · Jan 12, 2026 7:57 am

On the surface, the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that’s the part people are stuck on Feels like there’s more coming here. That’s just my read on it.

Thomas Stanley
Thomas Stanley
@bluezebra774319 · Jan 12, 2026 7:57 am

From a neutral view, this feels rushed rather than thought through Not convinced this is settled yet.

Isabella Li
Isabella Li
@purplefish264232 · Jan 12, 2026 7:57 am

Real talk, this feels rushed rather than thought through This probably isn’t the last word on it. At least from my perspective.

Roberto Navarro
Roberto Navarro
@sadostrich755264 · Jan 12, 2026 7:56 am

Trying to be fair, the way this is presented changes how it lands and that’s where it gets complicated That’s what makes this interesting. We’ll see how people react over time. At least from my perspective.

آوینا قاسمی
آوینا قاسمی
@sadelephant945286 · Jan 12, 2026 7:56 am

To be fair, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that friction is hard to ignore That’s what changes the context. Curious how this plays out.

Jan Fanebust
Jan Fanebust
@heavydog430487 · Jan 12, 2026 7:56 am

the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone At least from my perspective.

Andre Bertrand
Andre Bertrand
@yellowfish477657 · Jan 12, 2026 7:55 am

If you zoom out, this depends heavily on what happens next and that’s where it gets complicated Curious how this plays out.

Taylor Cooper
Taylor Cooper
@blackgoose754997 · Jan 12, 2026 7:55 am

the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that’s why opinions are all over the place That’s the key detail here. This probably isn’t the last word on it. That’s just my read on it.

Michelle Campbell
Michelle Campbell
@redmeercat952629 · Jan 12, 2026 7:54 am

the timing matters more than people admit That’s what makes this interesting. This could age very differently in a week.

Annicka Volman
Annicka Volman
@sadbear760783 · Jan 12, 2026 7:54 am

From a neutral view, the signal is clear, the strategy less so so the response doesn’t surprise me That’s what changes the context. Time will tell.

Sylke Jüngling
Sylke Jüngling
@lazyzebra526589 · Jan 12, 2026 7:53 am

Putting bias aside, this feels more about execution than intent which explains why reactions are split This could age very differently in a week.

Magarete Schmied
Magarete Schmied
@beautifullion158763 · Jan 12, 2026 7:53 am

Trying to be fair, the signal is clear, the strategy less so We’ll see how people react over time. Others will probably see it differently.

Maëlle Roche
Maëlle Roche
@heavygoose141342 · Jan 12, 2026 7:53 am

Without overthinking it, the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that’s why opinions are all over the place Hard to say where this lands long term. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Naser Lopez
Naser Lopez
@redfrog539330 · Jan 12, 2026 7:53 am

this reads stronger on paper than in practice and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That’s what changes the context. At least from my perspective.

Isabelle Schlecht
Isabelle Schlecht
@orangefish891368 · Jan 12, 2026 7:53 am

Putting bias aside, the direction makes sense but the details are messy Curious how this plays out.

Ellie Williams
Ellie Williams
@bigmeercat925488 · Jan 12, 2026 7:53 am

If we’re being honest, the wording alone shifts how people read this which turns this into more of a debate That part stands out.

Owen Jenkins
Owen Jenkins
@blackzebra148854 · Jan 12, 2026 7:53 am

the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that’s where people will push back That’s the key detail here. Let’s see what happens next. That’s the impression it gives me.

Aino Anttila
Aino Anttila
@greenlion194235 · Jan 12, 2026 7:53 am

From my side, the main issue seems to be how this is handled

Kevin Årvik
Kevin Årvik
@blackswan655995 · Jan 12, 2026 7:53 am

At this point, this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That’s what changes the context.

Júlio Monteiro
Júlio Monteiro
@lazypanda299622 · Jan 12, 2026 7:53 am

Without overthinking it, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified and that friction is hard to ignore

Clara Gómez
Clara Gómez
@purplelion867493 · Jan 12, 2026 7:52 am

the way this is presented changes how it lands and that’s where the disagreement starts That part stands out. Feels like an opening move, not an ending. At least from my perspective.

Brativoy Kalchenko
Brativoy Kalchenko
@tinymouse733792 · Jan 12, 2026 7:52 am

Real talk, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome which explains why reactions are split Feels like an opening move, not an ending. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Cecílio Moura
Cecílio Moura
@redrabbit802645 · Jan 12, 2026 7:52 am

On the surface, this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s where it gets complicated That’s just my read on it.

Dorofeya Daragan
Dorofeya Daragan
@beautifulzebra742280 · Jan 12, 2026 7:52 am

Without overthinking it, the signal is clear, the strategy less so Time will tell.

Jadranko Radojičić
Jadranko Radojičić
@brownelephant997845 · Jan 12, 2026 7:52 am

the wording alone shifts how people read this which is why this is getting picked apart

Sky Ensing
Sky Ensing
@goldenmeercat615284 · Jan 12, 2026 7:52 am

Not gonna lie, the timing matters more than people admit which explains why reactions are split Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Meral Yeşilkaya
Meral Yeşilkaya
@greendog103871 · Jan 12, 2026 7:52 am

Trying to be fair, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that friction is hard to ignore Feels like there’s more coming here.

Patricio Pulido
Patricio Pulido
@silverpanda434178 · Jan 12, 2026 7:51 am

the timing matters more than people admit and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That’s the key detail here.

دانیال حیدری
دانیال حیدری
@angrymeercat304115 · Jan 12, 2026 7:51 am

From the outside, the timing matters more than people admit so the response doesn’t surprise me That’s what changes the context. Time will tell.

Veeti Waara
Veeti Waara
@yellowswan341596 · Jan 12, 2026 7:51 am

the signal is clear, the strategy less so This probably isn’t the last word on it.

Mestan Dağdaş
Mestan Dağdaş
@yellowcat852363 · Jan 12, 2026 7:51 am

At this point, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here At least from my perspective.

Olivia Wallo
Olivia Wallo
@greenleopard910821 · Jan 12, 2026 7:51 am

this depends heavily on what happens next which makes the reaction pretty predictable That’s the key detail here. We’ll see how people react over time.

Aleksi Wallo
Aleksi Wallo
@sadpanda793851 · Jan 12, 2026 7:51 am

From the outside, the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that friction is hard to ignore That part stands out. Hard to say where this lands long term.

Elliot Wilson
Elliot Wilson
@bluemeercat347934 · Jan 12, 2026 7:51 am

On the surface, this solves one problem while creating another and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That’s what makes this interesting.

Yasnovid Popovskiy
Yasnovid Popovskiy
@orangepanda360682 · Jan 12, 2026 7:50 am

this solves one problem while creating another and that friction is hard to ignore Feels like an opening move, not an ending. Others will probably see it differently.

Harriet Jackson
Harriet Jackson
@crazywolf270703 · Jan 12, 2026 7:50 am

Without overthinking it, the way this is presented changes how it lands Time will tell. At least from my perspective.

Esparta Candelaria
Esparta Candelaria
@sadmouse256720 · Jan 12, 2026 7:50 am

From the outside, the timing matters more than people admit Not convinced this is settled yet.

Dorian Marchand
Dorian Marchand
@happybear171686 · Jan 12, 2026 7:50 am

this comes across more reactive than planned and that friction is hard to ignore That’s what changes the context. Feels like there’s more coming here. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.