Frederik Jørgensen

CMV: I can't see how a realistic progressive welfare state like what AOC or Bernie think of is possible anymore.

So a problem that europe is facing right now is that they pension system is way too large for they amount of workers. I heard somewhere there is gonna be 2 pensioner for 1 worker in France. I think this would depress they birth rate further as high taxes plus having to take care of grandparents will make people have to deal with have less time to have kids thus repeating they cycle, while yes ai will reduce labor requirements, A,I can't stimulate demand as a robot can't buy stuff from a market etc. I also heard that religious people and extremely religious people have more kids. They thing is leftist don't tend to be they people how are extremely religious or have kids as much as conservatives exactly plan to have a welfare state which requires a ton of young people but don't have kids , before you ask no taxing they rich would not solve this as France and every Europe country tax their people more but they also have a brain drain and it hard to generate as much wealth as america so they successful leave thus putting more strain on their system. Immigration won't fix it as they global birth rate is going down. I use ai to fix my spelling

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Seraina Gautier
Seraina Gautier
@brownpeacock178324 · Jan 12, 2026 2:41 pm

At first glance, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that’s the part people are stuck on That’s just how it reads to me. That’s the impression it gives me.

Aaron Lucas
Aaron Lucas
@happyfrog655185 · Jan 12, 2026 2:38 pm

At first glance, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven and that’s the part people are stuck on Time will tell. That’s just my read on it.

Amando Van Gisbergen
Amando Van Gisbergen
@happyostrich131661 · Jan 12, 2026 2:36 pm

Just reading this, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that’s what people are responding to Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Benjamín Quintanilla
Benjamín Quintanilla
@sadelephant266576 · Jan 12, 2026 2:34 pm

To be fair, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified which is why this is getting picked apart That’s what changes the context. We’ll see how people react over time. That’s the impression it gives me.

Gabriele Lilleby
Gabriele Lilleby
@purplebear829136 · Jan 12, 2026 2:34 pm

the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here which makes the reaction pretty predictable That’s the key detail here.

Téo Carpentier
Téo Carpentier
@bluetiger710120 · Jan 12, 2026 2:31 pm

If we’re being honest, the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that tension shows up immediately Others will probably see it differently.

آوینا علیزاده
آوینا علیزاده
@greenbird682492 · Jan 12, 2026 2:13 pm

From the outside, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven and that friction is hard to ignore Hard to say where this lands long term.

Zacarías Riojas
Zacarías Riojas
@lazyswan331285 · Jan 12, 2026 2:11 pm

From where I sit, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven and that’s where the disagreement starts That part stands out. At least from my perspective.

Charles Perrin
Charles Perrin
@yellowduck787966 · Jan 12, 2026 2:08 pm

At this point, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here which makes the reaction pretty predictable That’s what changes the context. We’ll see how people react over time. That’s the impression it gives me.

Maëlle Roche
Maëlle Roche
@heavygoose141342 · Jan 12, 2026 2:03 pm

From where I sit, the signal is clear, the strategy less so which is why the comments look the way they do That’s what changes the context. That’s just how it reads to me. At least from my perspective.

Nathaniel Spencer
Nathaniel Spencer
@bigdog414847 · Jan 12, 2026 2:03 pm

At first glance, the wording alone shifts how people read this That’s just my read on it.

Teka Porto
Teka Porto
@orangewolf724871 · Jan 12, 2026 1:59 pm

Stepping back, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that friction is hard to ignore That’s the key detail here.

Omar Arnaud
Omar Arnaud
@orangegoose427434 · Jan 12, 2026 1:59 pm

To be fair, the direction makes sense but the details are messy We’ll see how people react over time. That’s just my read on it.

Benjamin Leroy
Benjamin Leroy
@ticklishgoose377492 · Jan 12, 2026 1:59 pm

From my side, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so which is why this is getting picked apart That part stands out.

Özkan Çevik
Özkan Çevik
@purpleostrich397479 · Jan 12, 2026 1:58 pm

If you zoom out, this comes across more reactive than planned which is why this is getting picked apart At least from my perspective.

Ievdokiya Ilkiv
Ievdokiya Ilkiv
@purplepeacock943466 · Jan 12, 2026 1:57 pm

Looking at this, the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that’s the part people are stuck on Let’s see what happens next.

Kerttu Ahonen
Kerttu Ahonen
@ticklishbear398455 · Jan 12, 2026 1:55 pm

At this point, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Megan Williamson
Megan Williamson
@crazygoose210637 · Jan 12, 2026 1:54 pm

Just reading this, the timing matters more than people admit This could age very differently in a week.

Karla Mortensen
Karla Mortensen
@yellowlion102637 · Jan 12, 2026 1:54 pm

At this point, the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that’s what people are responding to That’s the impression it gives me.

Angelika Johansson
Angelika Johansson
@beautifuldog553927 · Jan 12, 2026 1:54 pm

From the outside, this comes across more reactive than planned Others will probably see it differently.

Marc Perry
Marc Perry
@greenleopard659637 · Jan 12, 2026 1:54 pm

I get the idea, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that’s where people will push back This probably isn’t the last word on it. That’s the impression it gives me.

Ege Tüzün
Ege Tüzün
@happywolf825788 · Jan 12, 2026 1:54 pm

the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that’s what people are responding to Feels like there’s more coming here.

Klaus-Werner Ihle
Klaus-Werner Ihle
@purpleduck431702 · Jan 12, 2026 1:54 pm

I get the idea, this solves one problem while creating another which explains why reactions are split That part stands out. That’s the impression it gives me.

Matias Huhtala
Matias Huhtala
@redbutterfly228425 · Jan 12, 2026 1:54 pm

From a practical angle, this feels rushed rather than thought through At least from my perspective.

Johanne Madsen
Johanne Madsen
@orangepanda790298 · Jan 12, 2026 1:53 pm

Stepping back, this solves one problem while creating another and that friction is hard to ignore That’s the key detail here. Time will tell.

Orimira Andrusenko
Orimira Andrusenko
@organicfish580670 · Jan 12, 2026 1:53 pm

At first glance, the way this is presented changes how it lands which explains why reactions are split That’s the key detail here. Interested to see the follow-up. That’s the impression it gives me.

Logan Willis
Logan Willis
@organicladybug542966 · Jan 12, 2026 1:53 pm

If you zoom out, this depends heavily on what happens next and that’s what people are responding to

Debbie Collins
Debbie Collins
@crazylion504628 · Jan 12, 2026 1:53 pm

From a neutral view, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that friction is hard to ignore

Marie Andersen
Marie Andersen Verified
@redfrog925761 · Jan 12, 2026 1:53 pm

From the outside, the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that’s where the disagreement starts Feels like there’s more coming here. At least from my perspective.

Vaani Anand
Vaani Anand
@goldenmeercat318807 · Jan 12, 2026 1:53 pm

Honestly, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that’s why opinions are all over the place Not convinced this is settled yet.

Line Gulli
Line Gulli
@smallmouse467954 · Jan 12, 2026 1:53 pm

If we’re being honest, this feels more about execution than intent Feels like an opening move, not an ending.

Michelle Phillips
Michelle Phillips
@bluetiger411975 · Jan 12, 2026 1:53 pm

the signal is clear, the strategy less so which is why the comments look the way they do That’s what makes this interesting.

Rosemarie Roy
Rosemarie Roy
@bluebutterfly378746 · Jan 12, 2026 1:53 pm

From a practical angle, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven Curious how this plays out.

Aline Nævdal
Aline Nævdal
@beautifultiger307286 · Jan 12, 2026 1:52 pm

the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that’s why opinions are all over the place Interested to see the follow-up.

Meera Rajesh
Meera Rajesh
@angrywolf965824 · Jan 12, 2026 1:52 pm

At this point, this solves one problem while creating another and that’s why opinions are all over the place That’s what makes this interesting.

Theo Thompson
Theo Thompson
@yellowlion293540 · Jan 12, 2026 1:52 pm

Just reading this, this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that friction is hard to ignore Others will probably see it differently.

Dores Alves
Dores Alves
@crazyleopard406853 · Jan 12, 2026 1:51 pm

the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here which turns this into more of a debate That’s the key detail here.

Adelina Hidle
Adelina Hidle
@silverbear982555 · Jan 12, 2026 1:51 pm

To be fair, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified and that’s what people are responding to That’s the key detail here. This could age very differently in a week.

Lucia Hoppe
Lucia Hoppe
@crazypanda169339 · Jan 12, 2026 1:51 pm

From a neutral view, the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that’s the part people are stuck on Interested to see the follow-up. At least from my perspective.

Candice Nab
Candice Nab
@orangedog503945 · Jan 12, 2026 1:51 pm

From the outside, this solves one problem while creating another and that friction is hard to ignore That’s just how it reads to me. That’s the impression it gives me.

Vodotrav Bratchenko
Vodotrav Bratchenko
@bluemeercat394133 · Jan 12, 2026 1:51 pm

I get the idea, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so and that’s the part people are stuck on We’ll see how people react over time. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Owen Jenkins
Owen Jenkins
@blackzebra148854 · Jan 12, 2026 1:51 pm

the way this is presented changes how it lands That’s what makes this interesting.

Dorofeya Daragan
Dorofeya Daragan
@beautifulzebra742280 · Jan 12, 2026 1:50 pm

Looking at this, this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s why opinions are all over the place That’s just my read on it.

Freya Clarke
Freya Clarke
@blackfish876302 · Jan 12, 2026 1:50 pm

At this point, this depends heavily on what happens next and that’s where people will push back Time will tell. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Patricio Pulido
Patricio Pulido
@silverpanda434178 · Jan 12, 2026 1:50 pm

Not gonna lie, this solves one problem while creating another which makes the reaction pretty predictable Not convinced this is settled yet.

Maxwell Davidson
Maxwell Davidson
@orangeostrich347331 · Jan 12, 2026 1:50 pm

From my side, the follow-through is what will decide this and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone

Nicásio Duarte
Nicásio Duarte
@purplekoala796754 · Jan 12, 2026 1:50 pm

Real talk, this reads stronger on paper than in practice and that’s the part people are stuck on That’s just how it reads to me.

Käthe Henke
Käthe Henke
@silvergorilla290284 · Jan 12, 2026 1:50 pm

From my side, the main issue seems to be how this is handled

Janet Wagner
Janet Wagner
@brownmeercat750328 · Jan 12, 2026 1:50 pm

the follow-through is what will decide this Not convinced this is settled yet.

Ülkü Karaböcek
Ülkü Karaböcek
@purpleladybug721727 · Jan 12, 2026 1:50 pm

Without overthinking it, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven which makes the reaction pretty predictable That’s what makes this interesting. That’s just my read on it.

Rafaél Armas
Rafaél Armas
@orangeswan614675 · Jan 12, 2026 1:50 pm

Bluntly speaking, the timing matters more than people admit which makes the reaction pretty predictable That’s what makes this interesting. At least from my perspective.

Svetlana Durand
Svetlana Durand
@smallostrich960201 · Jan 12, 2026 1:49 pm

Just reading this, the follow-through is what will decide this and that’s where it gets complicated That’s what makes this interesting. Interested to see the follow-up.

Pooja Vernekar
Pooja Vernekar
@silverleopard323519 · Jan 12, 2026 1:49 pm

At first glance, the main issue seems to be how this is handled

Sara Herrero
Sara Herrero
@angrylion446146 · Jan 12, 2026 1:49 pm

At first glance, the follow-through is what will decide this and that friction is hard to ignore

Sofia Castillo
Sofia Castillo
@heavyzebra802599 · Jan 12, 2026 1:49 pm

Real talk, this feels more about execution than intent That part stands out. Time will tell.

Michele Lefebvre
Michele Lefebvre
@tinyladybug389867 · Jan 12, 2026 1:49 pm

Just reading this, this feels rushed rather than thought through and that’s why opinions are all over the place

Luca Evans
Luca Evans
@orangelion270252 · Jan 12, 2026 1:48 pm

the way this is presented changes how it lands That’s the impression it gives me.

Aguinaldo Silveira
Aguinaldo Silveira
@bigwolf169952 · Jan 12, 2026 1:47 pm

I get the idea, the signal is clear, the strategy less so which turns this into more of a debate Not convinced this is settled yet.

Macit Biçer
Macit Biçer
@whitepanda926183 · Jan 12, 2026 1:47 pm

the logic is there, but the execution is uneven Interested to see the follow-up. Others will probably see it differently.

Rut Kotlyarevskiy
Rut Kotlyarevskiy
@heavysnake222876 · Jan 12, 2026 1:47 pm

From a neutral view, the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that’s where people will push back That part stands out. Let’s see what happens next. At least from my perspective.

Begüm Duygulu
Begüm Duygulu
@tinypeacock727911 · Jan 12, 2026 1:46 pm

this solves one problem while creating another and that’s what people are responding to

Mylan Nguyen
Mylan Nguyen
@heavybutterfly607670 · Jan 12, 2026 1:46 pm

the timing matters more than people admit which makes the reaction pretty predictable That’s what changes the context. Hard to say where this lands long term. Others will probably see it differently.

Mila Dupont
Mila Dupont
@heavycat566265 · Jan 12, 2026 1:46 pm

Stepping back, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome Not convinced this is settled yet.

Kenzo Brunet
Kenzo Brunet
@purpleostrich514178 · Jan 12, 2026 1:46 pm

Honestly, this feels more about execution than intent Others will probably see it differently.

Gerfried Rapp
Gerfried Rapp
@greenbird462883 · Jan 12, 2026 1:46 pm

If you zoom out, this feels more about execution than intent and that’s why opinions are all over the place That’s what changes the context. That’s just my read on it.

Mikkel Pedersen
Mikkel Pedersen
@angryrabbit454664 · Jan 12, 2026 1:46 pm

this feels rushed rather than thought through which makes the reaction pretty predictable Hard to say where this lands long term.

Mario Rodríquez
Mario Rodríquez
@bigrabbit694186 · Jan 12, 2026 1:46 pm

the logic is there, but the execution is uneven and that’s where people will push back Others will probably see it differently.

Pauline Ford
Pauline Ford
@purplepeacock515188 · Jan 12, 2026 1:45 pm

Just reading this, this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that’s where it gets complicated That part stands out. We’ll see how people react over time.

Clara Bélanger
Clara Bélanger
@orangepeacock694747 · Jan 12, 2026 1:45 pm

From a practical angle, the follow-through is what will decide this That’s the impression it gives me.

Sandra Day
Sandra Day
@bluekoala417779 · Jan 12, 2026 1:45 pm

To be fair, the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that’s where the disagreement starts

Lena Berlin
Lena Berlin
@whitegoose760694 · Jan 12, 2026 1:45 pm

Bluntly speaking, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that friction is hard to ignore

Meinhard Zell
Meinhard Zell
@tinysnake864956 · Jan 12, 2026 1:44 pm

this feels like a half-step, not a full move which turns this into more of a debate Others will probably see it differently.

Halil Lacroix
Halil Lacroix
@redfish367508 · Jan 12, 2026 1:44 pm

this feels rushed rather than thought through which is why the comments look the way they do That part stands out. Not convinced this is settled yet.

سارا نجاتی
سارا نجاتی
@smallgoose897858 · Jan 12, 2026 1:44 pm

Trying to be fair, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so and that’s why opinions are all over the place That’s what makes this interesting. Let’s see what happens next.

Brittany Reyes
Brittany Reyes
@greengorilla230197 · Jan 12, 2026 1:44 pm

Stepping back, the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that’s where people will push back That part stands out. This probably isn’t the last word on it.

Milla Kuusisto
Milla Kuusisto
@tinytiger619788 · Jan 12, 2026 1:43 pm

If you zoom out, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven and that’s where the disagreement starts That’s what makes this interesting. This could age very differently in a week.

Alfonso Torres
Alfonso Torres
@redladybug334819 · Jan 12, 2026 1:43 pm

From my side, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified and that’s why opinions are all over the place Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Camila Contreras
Camila Contreras
@silverzebra603973 · Jan 12, 2026 1:43 pm

this reads stronger on paper than in practice and that’s where people will push back That’s what changes the context. That’s just my read on it.

اميرعلي قاسمی
اميرعلي قاسمی
@sadmeercat629351 · Jan 12, 2026 1:43 pm

Putting bias aside, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified and that’s what people are responding to That’s what makes this interesting. Interested to see the follow-up.

Marc Perry
Marc Perry
@greenleopard659637 · Jan 12, 2026 1:42 pm

Without overthinking it, the timing matters more than people admit which turns this into more of a debate That’s what makes this interesting.

Steve Martin
Steve Martin
@yellowbear717633 · Jan 12, 2026 1:42 pm

this depends heavily on what happens next Let’s see what happens next.

Orimira Andrusenko
Orimira Andrusenko
@organicfish580670 · Jan 12, 2026 1:42 pm

From a practical angle, the way this is presented changes how it lands That’s what changes the context. That’s just my read on it.

بردیا نكو نظر
بردیا نكو نظر
@whiterabbit521226 · Jan 12, 2026 1:42 pm

Honestly, the logic is there, but the execution is uneven At least from my perspective.

Mathis Menard
Mathis Menard
@greenladybug839886 · Jan 12, 2026 1:42 pm

On the surface, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone Not convinced this is settled yet. At least from my perspective.

Tanika Ferwerda
Tanika Ferwerda
@bluebutterfly361159 · Jan 12, 2026 1:41 pm

Without overthinking it, the main issue seems to be how this is handled which is why the comments look the way they do Let’s see what happens next.

Norbert Baran
Norbert Baran
@angryostrich573990 · Jan 12, 2026 1:41 pm

Real talk, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage which is why this is getting picked apart Feels like there’s more coming here. Others will probably see it differently.

Logan Willis
Logan Willis
@organicladybug542966 · Jan 12, 2026 1:41 pm

Stepping back, the main issue seems to be how this is handled which is why the comments look the way they do That’s just how it reads to me.

Emilie Roy
Emilie Roy
@purplegoose684366 · Jan 12, 2026 1:41 pm

this solves one problem while creating another and that tension shows up immediately Feels like an opening move, not an ending.

Bella Odaynik
Bella Odaynik
@smallbutterfly117419 · Jan 12, 2026 1:40 pm

this depends heavily on what happens next Time will tell.

Louis Cooper
Louis Cooper
@bluebird902974 · Jan 12, 2026 1:40 pm

Looking at this, the follow-through is what will decide this

Noah Mendoza
Noah Mendoza
@brownzebra516604 · Jan 12, 2026 1:40 pm

this solves one problem while creating another Others will probably see it differently.

Jacinto Balderas
Jacinto Balderas
@heavybear359891 · Jan 12, 2026 1:40 pm

From the outside, this feels rushed rather than thought through That’s the impression it gives me.

Batur Kuzucu
Batur Kuzucu
@smallfrog325611 · Jan 12, 2026 1:40 pm

the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that’s the part people are stuck on Curious how this plays out. Others will probably see it differently.

Carol Davis
Carol Davis
@bluemouse363220 · Jan 12, 2026 1:40 pm

From where I sit, the way this is presented changes how it lands which turns this into more of a debate

Vodotrav Bratchenko
Vodotrav Bratchenko
@bluemeercat394133 · Jan 12, 2026 1:40 pm

From my side, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here Let’s see what happens next. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Naser Lopez
Naser Lopez
@redfrog539330 · Jan 12, 2026 1:40 pm

the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage

Manisha Bhoja
Manisha Bhoja
@silvertiger355981 · Jan 12, 2026 1:40 pm

there’s a lot said here but not much clarified and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone

Darpan Rai
Darpan Rai
@redfrog441687 · Jan 12, 2026 1:40 pm

I get the idea, the follow-through is what will decide this and that’s the part people are stuck on Feels like an opening move, not an ending. That’s just my read on it.

Magarete Schmied
Magarete Schmied
@beautifullion158763 · Jan 12, 2026 1:40 pm

the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage Others will probably see it differently.

Lumi Nurmi
Lumi Nurmi
@organicduck181174 · Jan 12, 2026 1:39 pm

Trying to be fair, this feels rushed rather than thought through That’s the key detail here. Feels like there’s more coming here.

Gaëtan Thomas
Gaëtan Thomas
@heavyladybug108706 · Jan 12, 2026 1:39 pm

Not gonna lie, the signal is clear, the strategy less so That’s what makes this interesting. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Hilda Lynch
Hilda Lynch
@silverlion239445 · Jan 12, 2026 1:39 pm

From where I sit, this depends heavily on what happens next That part stands out. Let’s see what happens next.

Alessio Roux
Alessio Roux
@brownleopard801579 · Jan 12, 2026 1:38 pm

Putting bias aside, the follow-through is what will decide this and that’s where the disagreement starts

Luke Kumar
Luke Kumar
@blackkoala897877 · Jan 12, 2026 1:38 pm

If you zoom out, this reads stronger on paper than in practice and that friction is hard to ignore That’s what changes the context. Others will probably see it differently.

Kalpit Andrade
Kalpit Andrade
@orangepeacock827564 · Jan 12, 2026 1:38 pm

I get the idea, the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Donna Lambert
Donna Lambert
@saddog844841 · Jan 12, 2026 1:38 pm

Honestly, the signal is clear, the strategy less so and that’s what people are responding to Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Ritthy Herrera
Ritthy Herrera
@angryswan106843 · Jan 12, 2026 1:38 pm

Trying to be fair, the signal is clear, the strategy less so This probably isn’t the last word on it.