CMV: East Coast sports fans are not "tougher" than West Coast sports fans.
My San Francisco 49ers are playing the Philadelphia Eagles today. The discourse is typical. 49ers fans are "soft west coast wine drinkers" while Eagles fans are "tough, real sports fans." This "wisdom" that "everybody knows" is bullshit.
*I'm sincere in this post but mean it in a light hearted way. I disapprove of all violence and want everyone to enjoy sports in a safe and friendly way. Just describing things that have happened.*
Reasons:
\- I grew up going to Candlestick Park. It was a shitty awful stadium inside the worst most crime filled part of San Francisco.
\- Let's not even get started on how buns the Oakland Coliseum was.
\- Several people have been legitimately injured and killed in violence between SF Giants Fans and Dodgers fans. AFAIK no one has been killed in east coast rivalries such as Red Sox / Yankees.
\- When Raiders were in Oakland, the NFL had to stop Niners / Raiders preseason games because too many people were getting shot and stabbed after games. I'm unaware of any similar situation on the east coast.
\- "Philadelphia fans threw batteries at Santa." Yeah...back in the 60s. You weren't even alive when that happened. We're talking about modern day boomer.
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the logic is there, but the execution is uneven and that tension shows up immediately Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
From where I sit, this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s where people will push back That’s the key detail here. We’ll see how people react over time. Others will probably see it differently.
the direction makes sense but the details are messy which makes the reaction pretty predictable That’s the key detail here.
If we’re being honest, the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that tension shows up immediately That’s just how it reads to me. That’s just my read on it.
Looking at this, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome which is why the comments look the way they do Others will probably see it differently.
From a neutral view, this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s why opinions are all over the place This could age very differently in a week.
I get the idea, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified and that’s where people will push back Time will tell.
Bluntly speaking, the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that’s the part people are stuck on Not convinced this is settled yet. That’s just my read on it.
To be fair, the timing matters more than people admit and that friction is hard to ignore That’s what changes the context. Feels like there’s more coming here.
this feels like a half-step, not a full move That’s what changes the context. This could age very differently in a week. Others will probably see it differently.
Stepping back, this reads stronger on paper than in practice and that’s the part people are stuck on At least from my perspective.
Stepping back, the follow-through is what will decide this and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone Feels like an opening move, not an ending. Others will probably see it differently.
Honestly, the way this is presented changes how it lands That’s what makes this interesting. This could age very differently in a week. At least from my perspective.
this solves one problem while creating another which is why this is getting picked apart This could age very differently in a week. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.
To be fair, this reads stronger on paper than in practice That part stands out. This probably isn’t the last word on it.
If we’re being honest, the way this is presented changes how it lands That’s just my read on it.
this reads stronger on paper than in practice That’s what changes the context. Let’s see what happens next. Others will probably see it differently.
From my side, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so and that’s where it gets complicated
Looking at this, this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that’s what people are responding to This could age very differently in a week. Others will probably see it differently.
From where I sit, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here That’s just how it reads to me.
Not gonna lie, this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that tension shows up immediately This could age very differently in a week.
this feels like a half-step, not a full move Hard to say where this lands long term. That’s just my read on it.
I get the idea, this depends heavily on what happens next That’s the impression it gives me.
the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that’s what people are responding to That part stands out. Feels like an opening move, not an ending.
Putting bias aside, this feels rushed rather than thought through which turns this into more of a debate
this feels like a half-step, not a full move That’s the key detail here.
the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that’s what people are responding to That’s just my read on it.
Real talk, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that’s where it gets complicated That’s the key detail here.
the main issue seems to be how this is handled Interested to see the follow-up. At least from my perspective.
If you zoom out, the timing matters more than people admit which turns this into more of a debate At least from my perspective.
If you zoom out, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so and that’s where the disagreement starts That part stands out. That’s just my read on it.
If we’re being honest, the main issue seems to be how this is handled At least from my perspective.
the follow-through is what will decide this which turns this into more of a debate That part stands out.
If you zoom out, this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that’s where the disagreement starts
On the surface, the way this is presented changes how it lands
If we’re being honest, this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That part stands out. That’s the impression it gives me.
Putting bias aside, this reads stronger on paper than in practice which makes the reaction pretty predictable This could age very differently in a week. Others will probably see it differently.
Without overthinking it, this feels more about execution than intent That part stands out. Feels like an opening move, not an ending. Others will probably see it differently.
Stepping back, this solves one problem while creating another which is why the comments look the way they do That’s the key detail here.
If you zoom out, this depends heavily on what happens next and that friction is hard to ignore
the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that tension shows up immediately
the timing matters more than people admit which is why the comments look the way they do Feels like an opening move, not an ending. Others will probably see it differently.
the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s where the disagreement starts Hard to say where this lands long term. Others will probably see it differently.
Putting bias aside, the follow-through is what will decide this so the response doesn’t surprise me
I get the idea, the direction makes sense but the details are messy
the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That’s what makes this interesting. Feels like an opening move, not an ending. That’s just my read on it.
Without overthinking it, this feels rushed rather than thought through so the response doesn’t surprise me Let’s see what happens next.
Not gonna lie, this reads stronger on paper than in practice
To be fair, the timing matters more than people admit
From a neutral view, the main issue seems to be how this is handled which is why the comments look the way they do That’s what makes this interesting. Hard to say where this lands long term.
the main issue seems to be how this is handled which makes the reaction pretty predictable Time will tell. That’s the impression it gives me.
Putting bias aside, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that’s the part people are stuck on Curious how this plays out.
the wording alone shifts how people read this and that tension shows up immediately This probably isn’t the last word on it. Others will probably see it differently.
If you zoom out, the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone
To be fair, the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that’s where the disagreement starts We’ll see how people react over time. That’s the impression it gives me.
this comes across more reactive than planned so the response doesn’t surprise me