William Bélanger

CMV: East Coast sports fans are not "tougher" than West Coast sports fans.

My San Francisco 49ers are playing the Philadelphia Eagles today. The discourse is typical. 49ers fans are "soft west coast wine drinkers" while Eagles fans are "tough, real sports fans." This "wisdom" that "everybody knows" is bullshit.
*I'm sincere in this post but mean it in a light hearted way. I disapprove of all violence and want everyone to enjoy sports in a safe and friendly way. Just describing things that have happened.*
Reasons:
\- I grew up going to Candlestick Park. It was a shitty awful stadium inside the worst most crime filled part of San Francisco.
\- Let's not even get started on how buns the Oakland Coliseum was.
\- Several people have been legitimately injured and killed in violence between SF Giants Fans and Dodgers fans. AFAIK no one has been killed in east coast rivalries such as Red Sox / Yankees.
\- When Raiders were in Oakland, the NFL had to stop Niners / Raiders preseason games because too many people were getting shot and stabbed after games. I'm unaware of any similar situation on the east coast.
\- "Philadelphia fans threw batteries at Santa." Yeah...back in the 60s. You weren't even alive when that happened. We're talking about modern day boomer.
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Kavyashri Bhardwaj
Kavyashri Bhardwaj
@orangerabbit203993 · Jan 12, 2026 7:41 am

the logic is there, but the execution is uneven and that tension shows up immediately Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Fynn Bergsma
Fynn Bergsma
@tinybutterfly947419 · Jan 12, 2026 7:41 am

From where I sit, this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s where people will push back That’s the key detail here. We’ll see how people react over time. Others will probably see it differently.

Snizhana Greba
Snizhana Greba
@ticklishbear212897 · Jan 12, 2026 7:07 am

the direction makes sense but the details are messy which makes the reaction pretty predictable That’s the key detail here.

Yvonne Faure
Yvonne Faure
@greenswan808806 · Jan 12, 2026 7:07 am

If we’re being honest, the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that tension shows up immediately That’s just how it reads to me. That’s just my read on it.

رادین سالاری
رادین سالاری
@angrykoala740134 · Jan 12, 2026 7:07 am

Looking at this, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome which is why the comments look the way they do Others will probably see it differently.

Mathis Hegge
Mathis Hegge
@goldenmeercat578672 · Jan 12, 2026 7:07 am

From a neutral view, this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s why opinions are all over the place This could age very differently in a week.

Matias Huhtala
Matias Huhtala
@redbutterfly228425 · Jan 12, 2026 7:07 am

I get the idea, there’s a lot said here but not much clarified and that’s where people will push back Time will tell.

Annina Blanc
Annina Blanc
@ticklishzebra979137 · Jan 12, 2026 7:06 am

Bluntly speaking, the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that’s the part people are stuck on Not convinced this is settled yet. That’s just my read on it.

Noam Lemoine
Noam Lemoine
@bigduck375171 · Jan 12, 2026 7:06 am

To be fair, the timing matters more than people admit and that friction is hard to ignore That’s what changes the context. Feels like there’s more coming here.

Asta Christensen
Asta Christensen
@browntiger984755 · Jan 12, 2026 7:06 am

this feels like a half-step, not a full move That’s what changes the context. This could age very differently in a week. Others will probably see it differently.

محیا زارعی
محیا زارعی
@bigwolf356950 · Jan 12, 2026 7:06 am

Stepping back, this reads stronger on paper than in practice and that’s the part people are stuck on At least from my perspective.

Rosemarie Roy
Rosemarie Roy
@bluebutterfly378746 · Jan 12, 2026 7:06 am

Stepping back, the follow-through is what will decide this and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone Feels like an opening move, not an ending. Others will probably see it differently.

Michelle Phillips
Michelle Phillips
@bluetiger411975 · Jan 12, 2026 7:06 am

Honestly, the way this is presented changes how it lands That’s what makes this interesting. This could age very differently in a week. At least from my perspective.

Herkus Storheim
Herkus Storheim
@heavypanda783293 · Jan 12, 2026 7:06 am

this solves one problem while creating another which is why this is getting picked apart This could age very differently in a week. Could be wrong, but that’s how it comes across.

Janou Leppink
Janou Leppink
@organicgorilla569862 · Jan 12, 2026 7:05 am

To be fair, this reads stronger on paper than in practice That part stands out. This probably isn’t the last word on it.

Noah Mendoza
Noah Mendoza
@brownzebra516604 · Jan 12, 2026 7:05 am

If we’re being honest, the way this is presented changes how it lands That’s just my read on it.

Viktor Mogitich
Viktor Mogitich
@brownduck230825 · Jan 12, 2026 7:05 am

this reads stronger on paper than in practice That’s what changes the context. Let’s see what happens next. Others will probably see it differently.

Ludmila Ilić
Ludmila Ilić
@smallmeercat605187 · Jan 12, 2026 7:05 am

From my side, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so and that’s where it gets complicated

Elif Tokgöz
Elif Tokgöz
@bigmeercat828932 · Jan 12, 2026 7:05 am

Looking at this, this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that’s what people are responding to This could age very differently in a week. Others will probably see it differently.

Aino Anttila
Aino Anttila
@greenlion194235 · Jan 12, 2026 7:04 am

From where I sit, the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here That’s just how it reads to me.

Brativoy Kalchenko
Brativoy Kalchenko
@tinymouse733792 · Jan 12, 2026 7:04 am

Not gonna lie, this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that tension shows up immediately This could age very differently in a week.

Aapo Ylitalo
Aapo Ylitalo
@beautifulbird923943 · Jan 12, 2026 7:04 am

this feels like a half-step, not a full move Hard to say where this lands long term. That’s just my read on it.

Dobrovist Baievskiy
Dobrovist Baievskiy
@goldenmeercat901106 · Jan 12, 2026 7:04 am

I get the idea, this depends heavily on what happens next That’s the impression it gives me.

Esma Kutlay
Esma Kutlay
@greenzebra494666 · Jan 12, 2026 7:04 am

the main issue seems to be how this is handled and that’s what people are responding to That part stands out. Feels like an opening move, not an ending.

Osemrit Boykiv
Osemrit Boykiv
@smalldog329187 · Jan 12, 2026 7:04 am

Putting bias aside, this feels rushed rather than thought through which turns this into more of a debate

Laly Renard
Laly Renard
@redmeercat262595 · Jan 12, 2026 7:02 am

this feels like a half-step, not a full move That’s the key detail here.

Sedef Dağlaroğlu
Sedef Dağlaroğlu
@orangewolf335461 · Jan 12, 2026 7:02 am

the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that’s what people are responding to That’s just my read on it.

Tiffany Soto
Tiffany Soto
@greenswan410455 · Jan 12, 2026 7:02 am

Real talk, there’s a gap between the message and the outcome and that’s where it gets complicated That’s the key detail here.

Rian Van Miltenburg
Rian Van Miltenburg
@bluecat863162 · Jan 12, 2026 7:02 am

the main issue seems to be how this is handled Interested to see the follow-up. At least from my perspective.

Niilo Niemela
Niilo Niemela
@silverpanda974174 · Jan 12, 2026 7:02 am

If you zoom out, the timing matters more than people admit which turns this into more of a debate At least from my perspective.

Gunnar Westbye
Gunnar Westbye
@tinygorilla127680 · Jan 12, 2026 7:02 am

If you zoom out, the intention might be solid, the rollout less so and that’s where the disagreement starts That part stands out. That’s just my read on it.

Encarnación Molina
Encarnación Molina
@whitefish281658 · Jan 12, 2026 7:02 am

If we’re being honest, the main issue seems to be how this is handled At least from my perspective.

Arantxa Prenger
Arantxa Prenger
@bluebutterfly901123 · Jan 12, 2026 7:01 am

the follow-through is what will decide this which turns this into more of a debate That part stands out.

Bobby Wheeler
Bobby Wheeler
@smallgoose408888 · Jan 12, 2026 7:01 am

If you zoom out, this feels like a half-step, not a full move and that’s where the disagreement starts

Daniele Farias
Daniele Farias
@purplefish457185 · Jan 12, 2026 7:01 am

On the surface, the way this is presented changes how it lands

Alice Gaillard
Alice Gaillard
@heavyleopard450438 · Jan 12, 2026 7:01 am

If we’re being honest, this comes across more reactive than planned and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That part stands out. That’s the impression it gives me.

Jubeline Costa
Jubeline Costa
@orangeladybug941909 · Jan 12, 2026 7:01 am

Putting bias aside, this reads stronger on paper than in practice which makes the reaction pretty predictable This could age very differently in a week. Others will probably see it differently.

Kamila Ditlefsen
Kamila Ditlefsen
@tinyzebra456649 · Jan 12, 2026 7:01 am

Without overthinking it, this feels more about execution than intent That part stands out. Feels like an opening move, not an ending. Others will probably see it differently.

Kenzo Robin
Kenzo Robin
@purplecat838507 · Jan 12, 2026 7:01 am

Stepping back, this solves one problem while creating another which is why the comments look the way they do That’s the key detail here.

Jules Fleury
Jules Fleury
@silvercat589380 · Jan 12, 2026 7:00 am

If you zoom out, this depends heavily on what happens next and that friction is hard to ignore

Roy Welch
Roy Welch
@orangeduck585438 · Jan 12, 2026 7:00 am

the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that tension shows up immediately

Mstislav Vizerski
Mstislav Vizerski
@ticklishbear366199 · Jan 12, 2026 7:00 am

the timing matters more than people admit which is why the comments look the way they do Feels like an opening move, not an ending. Others will probably see it differently.

Kerim Erginsoy
Kerim Erginsoy
@happycat660304 · Jan 12, 2026 7:00 am

the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s where the disagreement starts Hard to say where this lands long term. Others will probably see it differently.

Silke Johansen
Silke Johansen
@bluemeercat542278 · Jan 12, 2026 7:00 am

Putting bias aside, the follow-through is what will decide this so the response doesn’t surprise me

Frank Ruiz
Frank Ruiz
@tinyfish858678 · Jan 12, 2026 7:00 am

I get the idea, the direction makes sense but the details are messy

Gabrielle Walker
Gabrielle Walker
@crazysnake894354 · Jan 12, 2026 6:59 am

the framing does a lot of heavy lifting here and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone That’s what makes this interesting. Feels like an opening move, not an ending. That’s just my read on it.

Melco Araújo
Melco Araújo
@redleopard200380 · Jan 12, 2026 6:59 am

Without overthinking it, this feels rushed rather than thought through so the response doesn’t surprise me Let’s see what happens next.

Alexandra Owens
Alexandra Owens
@angryrabbit424806 · Jan 12, 2026 6:59 am

Not gonna lie, this reads stronger on paper than in practice

Sulani Fernandes
Sulani Fernandes
@yellowkoala358936 · Jan 12, 2026 6:59 am

To be fair, the timing matters more than people admit

Justine Fortin
Justine Fortin
@sadostrich654437 · Jan 12, 2026 6:58 am

From a neutral view, the main issue seems to be how this is handled which is why the comments look the way they do That’s what makes this interesting. Hard to say where this lands long term.

Adam Brar
Adam Brar
@lazyfrog976364 · Jan 12, 2026 6:58 am

the main issue seems to be how this is handled which makes the reaction pretty predictable Time will tell. That’s the impression it gives me.

Vanessa Stewart
Vanessa Stewart
@tinywolf178697 · Jan 12, 2026 6:58 am

Putting bias aside, the idea isn’t bad, but the delivery is doing damage and that’s the part people are stuck on Curious how this plays out.

Simon Williams
Simon Williams
@angrymeercat340229 · Jan 12, 2026 6:58 am

the wording alone shifts how people read this and that tension shows up immediately This probably isn’t the last word on it. Others will probably see it differently.

Afanasiya Yablonska
Afanasiya Yablonska
@happylion527608 · Jan 12, 2026 6:58 am

If you zoom out, the wording alone shifts how people read this and that’s why this won’t land the same for everyone

Helena Picard
Helena Picard
@saddog769187 · Jan 12, 2026 6:57 am

To be fair, the direction makes sense but the details are messy and that’s where the disagreement starts We’ll see how people react over time. That’s the impression it gives me.

Frauke Heese
Frauke Heese
@ticklishkoala907253 · Jan 12, 2026 6:57 am

this comes across more reactive than planned so the response doesn’t surprise me